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Default Re: Win 7 virtual store question (with Access 2003) - 04-01-2011 , 02:52 PM






PW <emailaddyinsig (AT) ifIremember (DOT) com> wrote in
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I must have been having a bunch of problems not running
things with an Administrator account. I can't remember.
But the problem there is software that isn't properly designed to
run with only user-level permissions (I'm looking at you
Intuit/QuickBooks). The people designing that software who required
admin-level permissions to run were making a mistake, just as you
were if, for instance, you put your Access front ends in the
programs folder.

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I do not want to change all my settings now. Too late for that.
Vista/Win7 no longer give you a choice, unless you turn off UAC. If
you do that, you're losing one of the major benefits of Vista/Win7.

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Default Re: Win 7 virtual store question (with Access 2003) - 04-02-2011 , 12:51 PM






On 1 Apr 2011 19:52:03 GMT, "David-W-Fenton"
<NoEmail (AT) SeeSignature (DOT) invalid> wrote:

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PW <emailaddyinsig (AT) ifIremember (DOT) com> wrote in
news:2c67p6pkbdi0jt081k9mas90ebj4iutg37 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com:

I must have been having a bunch of problems not running
things with an Administrator account. I can't remember.

But the problem there is software that isn't properly designed to
run with only user-level permissions (I'm looking at you
Intuit/QuickBooks). The people designing that software who required
admin-level permissions to run were making a mistake, just as you
were if, for instance, you put your Access front ends in the
programs folder.

I do not want to change all my settings now. Too late for that.

Vista/Win7 no longer give you a choice, unless you turn off UAC. If
you do that, you're losing one of the major benefits of Vista/Win7.

It's just me and my PC. Just maybe, maybe, to make you guys happy I
will think about changing my account type from administrator :-)

Thanks David.

-paul

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Default Re: Win 7 virtual store question (with Access 2003) - 04-03-2011 , 10:33 AM



PW <emailaddyinsig (AT) ifIremember (DOT) com> wrote in
news:7eoep6l79eutml073a4aubvrdc9954rg0u (AT) 4ax (DOT) com:

Quote:
On 1 Apr 2011 19:52:03 GMT, "David-W-Fenton"
NoEmail (AT) SeeSignature (DOT) invalid> wrote:

Vista/Win7 no longer give you a choice, unless you turn off UAC.
If you do that, you're losing one of the major benefits of
Vista/Win7.

It's just me and my PC. Just maybe, maybe, to make you guys happy
I will think about changing my account type from administrator :-)
With Vista/Win7, don't! You don't gain anything from doing so if you
have UAC turned on. On the other hand, if you've got UAC turned off,
yes, you need to set up a separate admin account and run with a
user-level logon.

But one of the beauties of UAC is that it obviates the need for two
accounts on a single-user PC.

--
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contact via website only http://www.dfenton.com/DFA/

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PW
 
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Default Re: Win 7 virtual store question (with Access 2003) - 04-03-2011 , 01:34 PM



On 3 Apr 2011 15:33:05 GMT, "David-W-Fenton"
<NoEmail (AT) SeeSignature (DOT) invalid> wrote:

Quote:
PW <emailaddyinsig (AT) ifIremember (DOT) com> wrote in
news:7eoep6l79eutml073a4aubvrdc9954rg0u (AT) 4ax (DOT) com:

On 1 Apr 2011 19:52:03 GMT, "David-W-Fenton"
NoEmail (AT) SeeSignature (DOT) invalid> wrote:

Vista/Win7 no longer give you a choice, unless you turn off UAC.
If you do that, you're losing one of the major benefits of
Vista/Win7.

It's just me and my PC. Just maybe, maybe, to make you guys happy
I will think about changing my account type from administrator :-)

With Vista/Win7, don't! You don't gain anything from doing so if you
have UAC turned on. On the other hand, if you've got UAC turned off,
yes, you need to set up a separate admin account and run with a
user-level logon.

But one of the beauties of UAC is that it obviates the need for two
accounts on a single-user PC.

Okay David. I will leave my Win7 PC account as an administrator :-)

And leave Admin Approval mode on.

Thanks again!

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Tony Toews
 
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Default Re: Win 7 virtual store question (with Access 2003) - 04-03-2011 , 06:41 PM



Quote:
If we could get an on-line reservation system where we could
export and import availability etc into an Access database that
may work.
Albert Kallal has found a SQL Server hosted provider which is quite
inexpensive as in a few tens of dollars per month. I don't know the
name or more details.

A future version of the Auto FE Updater will allow for updating of the
FE database and related files from a web server.

Now with SQL Server a VPN is strongly suggested to be used.
Presumably the SQL Server provider supplies such but I don't know
that.

Thus, in a while, there may be a complete solution available.

Tony
--
Tony Toews, Microsoft Access MVP
Tony's Main MS Access pages - http://www.granite.ab.ca/accsmstr.htm
Tony's Microsoft Access Blog - http://msmvps.com/blogs/access/
For a convenient utility to keep your users FEs and other files
updated see http://www.autofeupdater.com/

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Tony Toews
 
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Default Re: Win 7 virtual store question (with Access 2003) - 04-03-2011 , 06:42 PM



On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 15:00:13 -0600, PW
<emailaddyinsig (AT) ifIremember (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:
I do not want to change all my settings now. Too late for that.
No, it's not too late. New versions of your software can respect the
standards. And they will be a lot easier to work with in the future.

Tony
--
Tony Toews, Microsoft Access MVP
Tony's Main MS Access pages - http://www.granite.ab.ca/accsmstr.htm
Tony's Microsoft Access Blog - http://msmvps.com/blogs/access/
For a convenient utility to keep your users FEs and other files
updated see http://www.autofeupdater.com/

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Default Re: Win 7 virtual store question (with Access 2003) - 04-03-2011 , 06:45 PM



On Sat, 02 Apr 2011 11:51:14 -0600, PW
<emailaddyinsig (AT) ifIremember (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:
It's just me and my PC. Just maybe, maybe, to make you guys happy I
will think about changing my account type from administrator :-)
Actually devs running as administrators are a good part of the
problem. <smile> I've been bit a few times.

For example way back when about 8 or 9 years ago I needed a registry
reading API call in the Auto FE Updater so I grabbed one I found. A
year or two later I got an email indicating there was a problem. I
couldn't repro it on my end and further digging was required.

Turns out the API code I had grabbed was out of date and was passing a
default parm which which to open the registry key for read/write.
Which was a problem for regular users. As it was I only needed to
read the registry key. And as I was running as admin I never
encountered the problem.

Tony
--
Tony Toews, Microsoft Access MVP
Tony's Main MS Access pages - http://www.granite.ab.ca/accsmstr.htm
Tony's Microsoft Access Blog - http://msmvps.com/blogs/access/
For a convenient utility to keep your users FEs and other files
updated see http://www.autofeupdater.com/

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Default Re: Win 7 virtual store question (with Access 2003) - 04-03-2011 , 09:45 PM



fOn Sun, 03 Apr 2011 17:41:04 -0600, Tony Toews
<ttoews (AT) telusplanet (DOT) net> wrote:

Quote:
If we could get an on-line reservation system where we could
export and import availability etc into an Access database that
may work.

Albert Kallal has found a SQL Server hosted provider which is quite
inexpensive as in a few tens of dollars per month. I don't know the
name or more details.
BTW I think this was a web hosting service that also provided
inexpensive SQL Server databases. He's not actually using any of the
web hosting. Just the SQL Server stuff.

Tony
--
Tony Toews, Microsoft Access MVP
Tony's Main MS Access pages - http://www.granite.ab.ca/accsmstr.htm
Tony's Microsoft Access Blog - http://msmvps.com/blogs/access/
For a convenient utility to keep your users FEs and other files
updated see http://www.autofeupdater.com/

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David-W-Fenton
 
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Default Re: Win 7 virtual store question (with Access 2003) - 04-06-2011 , 12:03 PM



PW <emailaddyinsig (AT) ifIremember (DOT) com> wrote in
news:9rehp61qlk7nrccjl5rmp9hohmkljed06g (AT) 4ax (DOT) com:

Quote:
On 3 Apr 2011 15:33:05 GMT, "David-W-Fenton"
NoEmail (AT) SeeSignature (DOT) invalid> wrote:

PW <emailaddyinsig (AT) ifIremember (DOT) com> wrote in
news:7eoep6l79eutml073a4aubvrdc9954rg0u (AT) 4ax (DOT) com:

On 1 Apr 2011 19:52:03 GMT, "David-W-Fenton"
NoEmail (AT) SeeSignature (DOT) invalid> wrote:

Vista/Win7 no longer give you a choice, unless you turn off UAC.
If you do that, you're losing one of the major benefits of
Vista/Win7.

It's just me and my PC. Just maybe, maybe, to make you guys
happy I will think about changing my account type from
administrator :-)

With Vista/Win7, don't! You don't gain anything from doing so if
you have UAC turned on. On the other hand, if you've got UAC
turned off, yes, you need to set up a separate admin account and
run with a user-level logon.

But one of the beauties of UAC is that it obviates the need for
two accounts on a single-user PC.


Okay David. I will leave my Win7 PC account as an administrator
:-)

And leave Admin Approval mode on.
I don't know what that latter means. I leave Win7 UAC in its default
configuration, which is very well-designed (compared to Vista UAC,
which was way too noisy).

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contact via website only http://www.dfenton.com/DFA/

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