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Default Splitting Access 2007 dB on Citrix network - 05-25-2010 , 09:49 AM






I'm creating an Access 2007 dB which will have several users (no more
than 10). I've never split a dB before or worked with a split dB.

What is the best way to split the dB for a Citrix network? We have
shared folders on the network server, and each user has their own
'Home' folder that only they have access to.

Should a split only be done right at the end of the design phase?

Also, if the design needs to be changed e.g. new form / query etc. how
is that done (e.g. is there an 'unsplit' version that one works on and
re-splits??).

If the dB design is changed do the front end versions need manually
distributing for individual users (e.g. copy individual copies into
individual folders?), or does it happen automatically.

[I've managed to find a bit about splitting dBs from MS access help
files, but not much about managing after a split.]

Thanks, Clare

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Default Re: Splitting Access 2007 dB on Citrix network - 05-25-2010 , 02:30 PM






Clare <clare (AT) cavs (DOT) org.uk> wrote:

BTW excellent set of questions that show you've been thinking about this.

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I'm creating an Access 2007 dB which will have several users (no more
than 10). I've never split a dB before or worked with a split dB.

What is the best way to split the dB for a Citrix network? We have
shared folders on the network server, and each user has their own
'Home' folder that only they have access to.
The Home folder is likely not a good idea as it could be, likely is, on their local
file server, which could be thousands of miles from the Citrix/Terminal Server
systems. You are best using a user specific folder on a file server local to the
Citrix/TS systems. I'd suggest even better would be on the Citrxi/TSs but IT
depatments likely won't be happy with that.

The Auto FE updater, mentioned below, can create user speicific foldrs on a server
and keep the user specific FE up to date.

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Should a split only be done right at the end of the design phase?
It can be done any time you want. So long as you realize that if you add a new table
to the backend you will have to relink to that table in the FE. Also it used to be
that if you added a field to the middle of a table and then, days or weeks later, you
compoacted the BE, you'd get a strange -1517 error. Until you compacted the FE. I
don't know if this error still happens as I haven't seen it in the newsgroups for
quite a while now. http://www.granite.ab.ca/access/reservederror1517.htm

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Also, if the design needs to be changed e.g. new form / query etc. how
is that done (e.g. is there an 'unsplit' version that one works on and
re-splits??).
No, you would work in the split FE (Front End) MDB/ACCDB on your own system and then
dsitribute a copy of that file although likely in MDE/ACCDB format.

Quote:
If the dB design is changed do the front end versions need manually
distributing for individual users (e.g. copy individual copies into
individual folders?), or does it happen automatically.
Ahh, do I have a solution for you. <smile> See the free Auto FE Updater
http://www.autofeupdater.com to keep the FE for each user up to date. Although note
that there is voluntary licensin and some interesting features out soon.

Quote:
[I've managed to find a bit about splitting dBs from MS access help
files, but not much about managing after a split.]
See the "Splitting your app into a front end and back end Tips" page at
http://www.granite.ab.ca/access/splitapp/ for more info.

Tony
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Tony Toews, Microsoft Access MVP
Tony's Main MS Access pages - http://www.granite.ab.ca/accsmstr.htm
Tony's Microsoft Access Blog - http://msmvps.com/blogs/access/
For a convenient utility to keep your users FEs and other files
updated see http://www.autofeupdater.com/
Granite Fleet Manager http://www.granitefleet.com/

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Default Re: Splitting Access 2007 dB on Citrix network - 05-26-2010 , 03:44 AM



On May 25, 8:30*pm, "Tony Toews [MVP]" <tto... (AT) telusplanet (DOT) net> wrote:
Quote:
Clare <cl... (AT) cavs (DOT) org.uk> wrote:

BTW excellent set of questions that show you've been thinking about this.

I'm creating an Access 2007 dB which will have several users (no more
than 10). I've never split a dB before or worked with a split dB.

What is the best way to split the dB for a Citrix network? We have
shared folders on the network server, and each user has their own
'Home' folder that only they have access to.

The Home folder is likely not a good idea as it could be, likely is, on their local
file server, which could be thousands of miles from the Citrix/Terminal Server
systems. * * You are best using a user specific folder on a file server local to the
Citrix/TS systems. * I'd suggest even better would be on the Citrxi/TSsbut IT
depatments likely won't be happy with that.

The Auto FE updater, mentioned below, can create user speicific foldrs ona server
and keep the user specific FE up to date.

Should a split only be done right at the end of the design phase?

It can be done any time you want. *So long as you realize that if you add a new table
to the backend you will have to relink to that table in the FE. * Also it used to be
that if you added a field to the middle of a table and then, days or weeks later, you
compoacted the BE, you'd get a strange -1517 error. *Until you compacted the FE. *I
don't know if this error still happens as I haven't seen it in the newsgroups for
quite a while now. *http://www.granite.ab.ca/access/reservederror1517.htm

Also, if the design needs to be changed e.g. new form / query etc. how
is that done (e.g. is there an 'unsplit' version that one works on and
re-splits??).

No, you would work in the split FE (Front End) MDB/ACCDB on your own system and then
dsitribute a copy of that file although likely in MDE/ACCDB format.

If the dB design is changed do the front end versions need manually
distributing for individual users (e.g. copy individual copies into
individual folders?), or does it happen automatically.

Ahh, do I have a solution for you. * <smile> See the free Auto FE Updaterhttp://www.autofeupdater.com*to keep the FE for each user up to date. *Although note
that there is voluntary licensin and some interesting features out soon.

[I've managed to find a bit about splitting dBs from MS access help
files, but not much about managing after a split.]

See the "Splitting your app into a front end and back end Tips" page athttp://www.granite.ab.ca/access/splitapp/for more info.

Tony
--
Tony Toews, Microsoft Access MVP
Tony's Main MS Access pages -http://www.granite.ab.ca/accsmstr.htm
Tony's Microsoft Access Blog -http://msmvps.com/blogs/access/
For a convenient utility to keep your users FEs and other files
* updated seehttp://www.autofeupdater.com/
Granite Fleet Managerhttp://www.granitefleet.com/
Hi Tony

Thank you so much for your detailed help!
I will look through everything and give it a go.

Clare

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Default Re: Splitting Access 2007 dB on Citrix network - 05-26-2010 , 02:23 PM



Clare <clare (AT) cavs (DOT) org.uk> wrote:

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Thank you so much for your detailed help!
I will look through everything and give it a go.
You're quite welcome. Please post back if any problems.

Tony
--
Tony Toews, Microsoft Access MVP
Tony's Main MS Access pages - http://www.granite.ab.ca/accsmstr.htm
Tony's Microsoft Access Blog - http://msmvps.com/blogs/access/
For a convenient utility to keep your users FEs and other files
updated see http://www.autofeupdater.com/
Granite Fleet Manager http://www.granitefleet.com/

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