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Notes on 25 May 2011

The "New Google Groups" UI does not thread correctly, but the old UI
still does.

From the old Google Groups UI there is a link to switch to the
"new Google Groups" but I am not aware of a link to get from the new
UI to the old UI.

I just spent a few minutes trying to learn how to get back to the old
google groups from the new groups .... and I didn't find a link to get
there from here.

The URL for the new UI looks something like this:
https://groups.google.com/d/forum/«groupname» or
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/«groupname»

https://groups.google.com/group/«groupname»/topics

for example:
https://groups.google.com/group/micr...c.excel/topics

Using the 'group' (instead of the 'forum') form of the URL will take
you to the old UI, which as of May 2011 does thread correctly.


To be precise, the old UI includes the NNTP "References:" header, but
the new UI includes a "In-Reply-To:" header instead, which follows a
different format.

Posts from Google Groups seem to include this header:
Organization: http://groups.google.com


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Clif McIrvin

(clare reads his mail with moe, nomail feeds the bit bucket :-)

Hi Cliff,

Thanks for the heads up. I am using Google Groups to acces these
groups / forums. I am seriously contemplating changing to a desktop
software package to more properly interact with the groups content. Do
you have a suggestion as to a suitable package and / or how to access
these google groups via that package? I wish to see the things I
contribute at least try to conform to the accepted standards of
newsgroups. Any ideas?

The Frog

"The Frog" <mr.frog.to.you (AT) googlemail (DOT) com> wrote


I'll be curious to see what other responses you get. I've thought for
a long time (ever since I first tried to find my way in newsgroups and
hadn't a clue!) that it would be good to put together a list ... but
I've never gotten that done.

I use eternal-september for my news server, others are aioe and
Albasani. IIRC, Individual.net is also highly recommended, though it
requires a nominal subscription fee.

I'm using OE (Win XP); Thuderbird also works -- I've seen numerous
others mentioned.

I'll see if I can find time to comb my notes and put together that list,
including appropriate URLs.

In the meantime, the various news servers I listed all have instructions
on their web pages.

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Clif McIrvin

(clare reads his mail with moe, nomail feeds the bit bucket :-)

On Wed, 1 Jun 2011 12:33:28 -0500, "Clif McIrvin"
<clare.nomail (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

As do I.

I use Agent from www.forteinc.com. I purchased v1.93 in 2002 and
haven't seen any good reason to upgrade. Others have said the
interface is a bit quirky. Which may be true but I'm used to it.
I've played around with the newest version and it seems to be overly
complex in my mind but ...

Tony
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