Terry Kreft wrote:

Good to have you around again, Terry.

So does your job situation warrent congratulations or
sympathies?

--
Marsh

Hi Marshall,
Mixture really, I've been made redundant but I got home, sat down and
thought "OK, how do I feel,,, " and the answer was Happy! The job was fine,
the person I worked for was a nightmare ( wanted to micro-manage but didn't
want to have problems flagged up, wanted explanations but didn't want them
in "technical jargon", etc. etc. ).

So at the moment I'm a gentleman (sic) of leisure, applying for jobs in a
lousy economic climate and nearly on the wrong side of 50.

I'm trying to work up the enthusiasm to learn ASP.NET and MS Ajax as they
seem to be the in thing. Neither of them looks very difficult but I just
can't get excited about web technologies. The Access, C#, VB, VB.NET, VBA,
Java and SQL Server skills (to get back on topic, sort of <g>) I have look
good and will integrate well with ASP.NET and Ajax so I should be OK if I
can just get some interviews under my belt.

I'm trying to keep busy knocking up a football (soccer) management system as
well at the moment, the idea is to have it available with either a SQL
Server or a Jet db as the data layer with an ADO.NET data objects layer, a
webservice as the middle layer and a C# client (initially) as the UI, the
trouble is I keep thinking of extra things to put in and not really getting
around to speccing it properly. To be honest I'm my own worst client as I
know all the things I could do with it !



Terry Kreft

"Marshall Barton" <marshbarton (AT) wowway (DOT) com> wrote

Terry Kreft wrote:


I think I remember how all that feels, but it was nearly 20
years ago for me. Good luck on finding a new, interesting
and enjoyable income source. It was independent consulting
for me, which made it easy to phase into retirement over a
10+ year period. Staying active in the newsgroups helped me
stay in touch with technology so I hope you find more time
to hang around here.

As for being your own worst client, I feel like the barefoot
shoemaker myself ;-)

--
Marsh

"Terry Kreft" <dont (AT) spam (DOT) me.co.uk> wrote

It's good to see you back, Terry.

And, you are being so very kind to Aaron when you refer to his posts as part
of a "discussion" -- he's wearing the same set of blinders as always, which
obscure everything but SQL Server (and tend to obscure the difference
between SQL Server editions, even, sometimes).

Best of success, and luck, to you in finding a productive and profitable way
to keep yourself occupied. I was very lucky when I took a "retirement
incentive" back in the early 90s and was able to leap on the soon-released
Access bandwagon and ride the wave of high demand for a few years.

I fear there is no particular product in a similar demand stage just now --
there are some Access die-hards, some classic VB die-hards, some aspiring
dot-netters, some dot-net "experts", but no overwhelming client demand for a
particular tool. The closest might be Microsoft SharePoint -- demand seems
to be building for that (and, it's getting enough publicity and support from
Microsoft that demand may very well stay high for some time).

Larry Linson
Microsoft Office Access MVP

Hi Larry,
Thanks for the welcome, it looks to me like we only need Dev, Michka and
David Fenton to be back up to full strength

Ah, Larry you know I enjoy discussions with people like Aaron more than
most, there's always that frisson when you realise you've got them into the
state of making wild accusations with no basis in fact which lets you know
they're on the run intellectually. It's a bit sad but I do enjoy it.

I know salaries for Sharepoint skills seem dramatically high, so I'm
guessing it's a bit of a buzz product at the moment. I could dig out the
discs and revisit it, to be honest though I prefer a modest salary doing
something I enjoy to swimming in money doing something I hate.


Terry Kreft



"Larry Linson" <bouncer (AT) localhost (DOT) not> wrote

"Terry Kreft" <dont (AT) spam (DOT) me.co.uk> wrote

Let me see, IIRC, Dev is doing something other than Access these days,
Michka is a Microsoft employee now, working far removed from Access, but
still keeps his hand in with the Seatle Access user groups and always
attends the Access MVPs' private dinner at the MVP Summit, and David is here
with some regularity.

A few other old-timers are to be found mostly in the Microsoft-sponsored
public newsgroups, Arvin and Tony among them. That's also where you'll find
aaron even more than he's here -- microsoft.public.access.

SharePoint seems less onerous to many than DotNet, though if you want to
extend it with code, the prescribed method seems to be with Visual Studio
and dot net. But in Access 2003 and SP 2.0 you could do some cooperative
work between Access and SP, and that improved with Access 2007 and SP 3.0.
As a user with admin permissions, I've done work on
http://sp.ntpcug.org/accesssig/default.aspx for my user group... nothing at
all out of the ordinary, but made it far easier for Special Interest Group
leaders to post announcements, examples, lists, pictures, etc. than going
through the "web team" for the user groups main web site...
http://www.ntpcug.org.

Larry Linson
Microsoft Office Access MVP (since 2003)