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? You can download the dev reference here: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/e...displaylang=en You need a help engine to use these files if you can't get office help to work (don't know why you having this trouble). Note that the help file for a2010 is really very good, but you MUST ALWAYS choose the local developer reference BEFORE you type in anything into the search box. And, don't use the web content, but us the local help file. Thanks for the reply, Albert. |
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I dl'd the Access file from the link you supplied. I copied the unzipped file to c:\program files\office 2010\office 14\1033. I hit the ? mark button, it ran thru it's configuration, and told me there were no help topics available. |
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The A2010 help file may be real good but I can't rate it. I will, however, give it an A for wasting time; uninstalls, configurations that fail, searching and writing for advice, etc. |
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This issue has been around since A2007. It probably has MS flummoxed as they certainly don't have a solution. |
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The only thing I can think of, at this point, is that I have multiple versions of Access. I installed it to the folder Microsoft Access 2010. This may confuse Office as MS may have hardcoded the paths. |
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I'm going to uninstall Office one more time and let it use the default directory, not a folder I specify. |
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It seems weird that you have to tell MS's installation process to leave prior versions alone. It's quite willing, from what I can see, to wipe out prior versions since that is the default setting. |
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Hopefully this will be my last uninstall/re-install of Office 2010. I've spend too much time trying to make an MS product work. If it fails, I guess I'll have to find some other alternative. It'd be nice if MS put their help files on the web for those that can't get to their help file any other way. Or a way to start up help from Explorer. |
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Salad <salad (AT) oilandvinegar (DOT) com> wrote in news:H9GdnbjAbYwPaqXQnZ2dnUVZ_uydnZ2d (AT) earthlink (DOT) com: I dl'd the Access file from the link you supplied. I copied the unzipped file to c:\program files\office 2010\office 14\1033. I hit the ? mark button, it ran thru it's configuration, and told me there were no help topics available. Sounds like you may have something wrong with the HTML Help engine, then. The A2010 help file may be real good but I can't rate it. I will, however, give it an A for wasting time; uninstalls, configurations that fail, searching and writing for advice, etc. Your experience is very different than anything I've seen. This issue has been around since A2007. It probably has MS flummoxed as they certainly don't have a solution. I have A2010 installed on a machine with A97 and A2003 and have had no problems with its help file. It's Win7, but I don't think that makes a difference. And I've got A97, A2000, A2003 and A2007 on the WinXP box on which I'm typing this and have had no help file problems with any of them (other than the deficiencies in the A2000 help files, of course). The only thing I can think of, at this point, is that I have multiple versions of Access. I installed it to the folder Microsoft Access 2010. This may confuse Office as MS may have hardcoded the paths. No, that is not the case. It has not been the case as long as I've used Office, going back to version 4.x, i.e., in the 1993-94 era. I'm going to uninstall Office one more time and let it use the default directory, not a folder I specify. It shouldn't be an issue to install in %Programs%\Microsoft Office\, since each version of Access starting with 2000 uses its own version-specific folders under that top-level MSO folder. It seems weird that you have to tell MS's installation process to leave prior versions alone. It's quite willing, from what I can see, to wipe out prior versions since that is the default setting. That has always been an annoyance to me, too. But it makes sense given that surely the vast majority of people running the installer are upgrading, not installing alongside an existing Office installation. It's because we are developers that we need to do that, and we are very small minority among users of Office. Hopefully this will be my last uninstall/re-install of Office 2010. I've spend too much time trying to make an MS product work. If it fails, I guess I'll have to find some other alternative. It'd be nice if MS put their help files on the web for those that can't get to their help file any other way. Or a way to start up help from Explorer. I think you have something hosed with your Windows installation. It seesm likely to me that there's something hosed in your system registry that's causing things to go wrong. To fix it, I would suggest uninstalling all versions of Office, running the Office Eraser programs for all the versions that you have had installed, and then re-installing (the order of re-install doesn't matter). If that doesn't fix it, then you have bigger problems than are going to be fixed by that, and I'd run a Windows re-install to repair the Windows installation. If you're going to uninstall all your Office versions and run the erasers, it might make sense to do the Windows repair while you're at it, rather than then having to do it afterwards if the Office cleanup doesn't fix the problem. Thanks David for you input and insight. Yeah, it could be, most likely |
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Sounds like you may have something wrong with the HTML Help engine, then. |
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David-W-Fenton wrote: Sounds like you may have something wrong with the HTML Help engine, then. I am not sure what you mean by HTML help engine. Is that in reference to the program CLView? |
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Salad <salad (AT) oilandvinegar (DOT) com> wrote in news:uvqdnXNiz_XJ66fQnZ2dnUVZ_uidnZ2d (AT) earthlink (DOT) com: David-W-Fenton wrote: Sounds like you may have something wrong with the HTML Help engine, then. I am not sure what you mean by HTML help engine. Is that in reference to the program CLView? I was assuming the help files that were installed are dependent on the HTML Help engine for rendering. Are they CHM files? Hi David. I wouldn't have a clue. I don't even know what a CHM file |
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David-W-Fenton wrote: Salad <salad (AT) oilandvinegar (DOT) com> wrote in news:uvqdnXNiz_XJ66fQnZ2dnUVZ_uidnZ2d (AT) earthlink (DOT) com: David-W-Fenton wrote: Sounds like you may have something wrong with the HTML Help engine, then. I am not sure what you mean by HTML help engine. Is that in reference to the program CLView? I was assuming the help files that were installed are dependent on the HTML Help engine for rendering. Are they CHM files? Hi David. I wouldn't have a clue. I don't even know what a CHM file is. I can look it up on the internet for the meaning but overall Help is simply something I've clicked on in the past and it works. Haven't paid much attention on how it works. |
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Salad <salad (AT) oilandvinegar (DOT) com> wrote in news:mvGdnTBiC5hhw6bQnZ2dnUVZ_sOdnZ2d (AT) earthlink (DOT) com: David-W-Fenton wrote: Salad <salad (AT) oilandvinegar (DOT) com> wrote in news:uvqdnXNiz_XJ66fQnZ2dnUVZ_uidnZ2d (AT) earthlink (DOT) com: David-W-Fenton wrote: Sounds like you may have something wrong with the HTML Help engine, then. I am not sure what you mean by HTML help engine. Is that in reference to the program CLView? I was assuming the help files that were installed are dependent on the HTML Help engine for rendering. Are they CHM files? Hi David. I wouldn't have a clue. I don't even know what a CHM file is. I can look it up on the internet for the meaning but overall Help is simply something I've clicked on in the past and it works. Haven't paid much attention on how it works. Well, there are two potential problems: 1. files are not getting installed |
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2. the files are copied to your hard drive but the necessary components and connections necessary for the |
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are failing for some reason. If it's #2, you might still be able to view the help files manually. For instance, when I look for the help files for Access 2007, I find them in the Office12\1033 folder. They are CHM files, and I can doubleclick them and browse them without having to open Access. |
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My suggestion is to see if you can do the same with your A2010 installation. |
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Thanks David for you input and insight. Yeah, it could be, most likely is, my machine. I wish I could uninstall and what not. I recently moved and my stuff is in storage a cpl of thousand miles away. When I get reunited with my stuff I'll consider that step. |
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On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 00:16:52 -0600, Salad <salad (AT) oilandvinegar (DOT) com wrote: Thanks David for you input and insight. Yeah, it could be, most likely is, my machine. I wish I could uninstall and what not. I recently moved and my stuff is in storage a cpl of thousand miles away. When I get reunited with my stuff I'll consider that step. Next time you get a chance make ISOs of all your software CDs and DVDs and place on an external hard drive. Tony |
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