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Default multiple users' simultaneous access to a MS Access database - 09-23-2010 , 10:13 AM






When my end user clicks on the icon for her MS Access database (the
icon is on her Novell NAL menu) she is successful in opening the
database.

However, when another staff member is using the database she receives
the message that someone is using it and she cannot access it at that
time.

Any suggestions as to what I need to do to resolve this? I guess it
would be a fix to allow multiple users simultaneous access to a MS
Access database?

Thanks in advance, Zuf

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Default Re: multiple users' simultaneous access to a MS Access database - 09-23-2010 , 10:17 AM






Per zufie:
Quote:
When my end user clicks on the icon for her MS Access database (the
icon is on her Novell NAL menu) she is successful in opening the
database.

However, when another staff member is using the database she receives
the message that someone is using it and she cannot access it at that
time.

Any suggestions as to what I need to do to resolve this? I guess it
would be a fix to allow multiple users simultaneous access to a MS
Access database?
Somebody else might have a better idea, but one approach is to
copy the row tb edited to a work table, let the person edit it
there, and then click a "Save" button to copy it back.

To do that, users have to accept that "Last In Wins"... and,
technically, you'd need to have an error trap to deal with the
small chance somebody else hit "Save" at exactly the same time
for a record in the same block - which would count to ten and
then try the save again.

You can add bells an whistles - like keeping a table of who is
editing what and notifying people on the same record
accordingly...
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Default Re: multiple users' simultaneous access to a MS Access database - 09-23-2010 , 10:37 AM



zufie wrote:

Quote:
When my end user clicks on the icon for her MS Access database (the
icon is on her Novell NAL menu) she is successful in opening the
database.

However, when another staff member is using the database she receives
the message that someone is using it and she cannot access it at that
time.

Any suggestions as to what I need to do to resolve this? I guess it
would be a fix to allow multiple users simultaneous access to a MS
Access database?

Thanks in advance, Zuf
Does the desktop shortcut have anything like
/EXCL
in the command line?

Under Tools/Option/Advanced is the StartUp option set to shared or
exclusive?

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Default Re: multiple users' simultaneous access to a MS Access database - 09-23-2010 , 10:54 AM



On Sep 23, 10:37*am, Salad <sa... (AT) oilandvinegar (DOT) com> wrote:
Quote:
zufie wrote:
When my end user clicks on the icon for her MS Access database (the
icon is on her Novell NAL menu) she is successful in opening the
database.

However, when another staff member is using the database she receives
the message that someone is using it and she cannot access it at that
time.

Any suggestions as to what I need to do to resolve this? I guess it
would be a fix to allow multiple users simultaneous access to a MS
Access database?

Thanks in advance, Zuf

Does the desktop shortcut have anything like
* * * * /EXCL
in the command line?

Under Tools/Option/Advanced is the StartUp option set to shared or
exclusive?
Nope, no /EXCEL. I ensured the StartUp option was set to shared.

I compared the StartUp option and other options on the Advanced tab to
a second database also on the NAL menu. Both database have the same
options.

Salad--Could/Would a person's profile be a cause for this? That is,
can a profile become corrupted and thefore interfere with a person's
access to a particular file?

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Default Re: multiple users' simultaneous access to a MS Access database - 09-23-2010 , 11:30 AM



Per (PeteCresswell):
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copy the row tb edited to a work table
Or, of course, just to the text boxes on a screen if it's a
simple enough situation.
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Default Re: multiple users' simultaneous access to a MS Access database - 09-23-2010 , 11:38 AM



zufie wrote:

Quote:
On Sep 23, 10:37 am, Salad <sa... (AT) oilandvinegar (DOT) com> wrote:

zufie wrote:

When my end user clicks on the icon for her MS Access database (the
icon is on her Novell NAL menu) she is successful in opening the
database.

However, when another staff member is using the database she receives
the message that someone is using it and she cannot access it at that
time.

Any suggestions as to what I need to do to resolve this? I guess it
would be a fix to allow multiple users simultaneous access to a MS
Access database?

Thanks in advance, Zuf

Does the desktop shortcut have anything like
/EXCL
in the command line?

Under Tools/Option/Advanced is the StartUp option set to shared or
exclusive?


Nope, no /EXCEL. I ensured the StartUp option was set to shared.

I compared the StartUp option and other options on the Advanced tab to
a second database also on the NAL menu. Both database have the same
options.

Salad--Could/Would a person's profile be a cause for this? That is,
can a profile become corrupted and thefore interfere with a person's
access to a particular file?
In your case I don't see how. UserA can get in if UserB is not in. If
UserB is in UserA is denied. ULS wouldn't have anything to do with that.

If not affected by startup options or command lines I'd then check
folder or file properties.

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Default Re: multiple users' simultaneous access to a MS Access database - 09-23-2010 , 12:10 PM



Hi,

zufie wrote:
Quote:
On Sep 23, 10:37 am, Salad <sa... (AT) oilandvinegar (DOT) com> wrote:
zufie wrote:
When my end user clicks on the icon for her MS Access database (the
icon is on her Novell NAL menu) she is successful in opening the
database.

However, when another staff member is using the database she
receives the message that someone is using it and she cannot access
it at that time.

Any suggestions as to what I need to do to resolve this? I guess it
would be a fix to allow multiple users simultaneous access to a MS
Access database?
What about the users rights on the folder containing the .mbd file ?

The .mdb file should be located in a folder where all users have read,
write, create, and delete privileges.
So maybe a ldb file could not be created. You can read more about it here:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/208778

Regards
Jens

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Default Re: multiple users' simultaneous access to a MS Access database - 09-23-2010 , 03:10 PM



"Jens Schilling" <JensSchillingBitteLoeschen (AT) fissership (DOT) de> wrote in
news:i7g1mt$d4f$00$1 (AT) news (DOT) t-online.com:

Quote:
The .mdb file should be located in a folder where all users have
read, write, create, and delete privileges.
DELETE is not absolutely required.

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Default Re: multiple users' simultaneous access to a MS Access database - 09-23-2010 , 04:27 PM



On Sep 23, 11:10*am, "Jens Schilling"
<JensSchillingBitteLoesc... (AT) fissership (DOT) de> wrote:
Quote:
Hi,

zufie wrote:
On Sep 23, 10:37 am, Salad <sa... (AT) oilandvinegar (DOT) com> wrote:
zufie wrote:
When my end user clicks on the icon for her MS Access database (the
icon is on her Novell NAL menu) she is successful in opening the
database.

However, when another staff member is using the database she
receives the message that someone is using it and she cannot access
it at that time.

Any suggestions as to what I need to do to resolve this? I guess it
would be a fix to allow multiple users simultaneous access to a MS
Access database?

What about the users rights on the folder containing the .mbd file ?

The .mdb file should be located in a folder where all users have read,
write, create, and delete privileges.
So maybe a ldb file could not be created. You can read more about it here:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/208778

Regards
Jens
it may not be folder permission, it could be windows user groups
I've seen it where userA is a power-user or administrator, and userB
is a regular user
if userB opens the mdb first, userA can also open it
but not vice versa

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Jens Schilling
 
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Default Re: multiple users' simultaneous access to a MS Access database - 09-24-2010 , 12:58 AM



Hi, David

David W. Fenton wrote:
Quote:
"Jens Schilling" <JensSchillingBitteLoeschen (AT) fissership (DOT) de> wrote in
news:i7g1mt$d4f$00$1 (AT) news (DOT) t-online.com:

The .mdb file should be located in a folder where all users have
read, write, create, and delete privileges.

DELETE is not absolutely required.
Maybe you are right - but it is documented in the same wording in the
knowledge base article that I have mentioned.

Regards
Jens

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