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Default Re: best approach for a web application ? - 09-01-2010 , 08:57 PM






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On 1 Sep 2010 02:28:06 GMT, "David W. Fenton"
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too bad there isn't a simpler alternative to citrix / terminal
services / RDP ?

What's complex about WTS? It's really, really easy to set up,
assuming you've got the hardware and bandwidth already in place.

And you don't need much bandwidth either. While sluggish I've
administered my web server via a 28.8 kpbs connection.

That's mostly because WTS splits the screen into 16 'chunks', and
only transmits the chunks that have changed.
Uh, RDP uses the same primitives as the Windows GDI modules. That
kind of thing would be relevant only if it were pushing bitmaps,
which it is not.

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Default Re: best approach for a web application ? - 09-01-2010 , 08:59 PM






"Stuart McCall" <smccall (AT) myunrealbox (DOT) com> wrote in
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On Wed, 1 Sep 2010 23:36:30 +0100, "Stuart McCall"
smccall (AT) myunrealbox (DOT) com> wrote:

And you don't need much bandwidth either. While sluggish I've
administered my web server via a 28.8 kpbs connection.

That's mostly because WTS splits the screen into 16 'chunks', and
only transmits the chunks that have changed.

No, Terminal Services/RDP doesn't send down any graphics or
chunks. Instead it sends down the UI rendering calls.

I never mentioned it sending graphics data. But I remember reading
sometime in the nineties I think,
RDP didn't exist in the 90s. There was a Terminal Server version of
Windows NT 4 Server, but installing it didn't get you anything at
all unless you installed the Citrix components.

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that the rendering info was tx'd in packets which
represented one of the 16 chunks ('chunks' is my terminology -
can't remember what MS called them). Of course I can't find
anything to back up my claim (I googled for about 30 mins). If I
find something I'll let you know, if you're interested.
It sounds like you're remembering VNC. I don't believe RDP every was
based on that kind of thing, unless it predates my use of WTS (which
would be c. 2000).

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