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Default Access 2010 With Previous Versions? - 05-24-2010 , 06:50 PM






Can anyone confirm that Access 2010 will coexist peacefully on the
same machine with previous versions in the same way that Access 2007
does?

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Banana
 
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Default Re: Access 2010 With Previous Versions? - 05-24-2010 , 08:15 PM






On 5/24/10 4:50 PM, Wayne wrote:
Quote:
Can anyone confirm that Access 2010 will coexist peacefully on the
same machine with previous versions in the same way that Access 2007
does?
I briefly tested in a VM that I was about to trash and found that it'd
have the same reconfiguration wait as one had between 2003/2007.
Furthermore, I'm inclined to say it's not worth maintaining side by side
installs because you have to be careful to not open both applications at
same time, even by accident. Under right circumstances, the references
can get quite broken.

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Wayne
 
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Default Re: Access 2010 With Previous Versions? - 05-24-2010 , 08:27 PM



On May 25, 11:15*am, Banana <Ban... (AT) Republic (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:
I briefly tested in a VM that I was about to trash and found that it'd
have the same reconfiguration wait as one had between 2003/2007.
Furthermore, I'm inclined to say it's not worth maintaining side by side
installs because you have to be careful to not open both applications at
same time, even by accident. Under right circumstances, the references
can get quite broken.
Thanks for the reply. Nothing would make me happier than not to have
to maintain several versions. :-) Unfortunately I have clients that
run A2002, A2003, A2007 and undoubtably A2010 in the near future. I'm
not left with any option (other than multiple development machines or
VMs) when I need to compile different versions into mdes for
distribution. I think there are many others in the same boat.

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Banana
 
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Default Re: Access 2010 With Previous Versions? - 05-24-2010 , 08:36 PM



On 5/24/10 6:27 PM, Wayne wrote:
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Thanks for the reply. Nothing would make me happier than not to have
to maintain several versions. :-) Unfortunately I have clients that
run A2002, A2003, A2007 and undoubtably A2010 in the near future. I'm
not left with any option (other than multiple development machines or
VMs) when I need to compile different versions into mdes for
distribution. I think there are many others in the same boat.
Indeed, and I would be in the boat myself. My personal solution is just
to use VMs which works well and I find it quite useful in testing
server-client scenarios (e.g. running two VMs at same time to provide
good way to test those scenarios). Since two (or more, but I'd need more
power) VM can run, I can have concurrent tests so am willing to put up
with extra startup of VM versus reconfiguration time, but that's just
me. Different strokes for different folks and all that.

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Allen Browne
 
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Default Re: Access 2010 With Previous Versions? - 05-25-2010 , 08:33 AM



"Wayne" <cqdigital (AT) volcanomail (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
Can anyone confirm that Access 2010 will coexist peacefully on
the same machine with previous versions in the same way that
Access 2007 does?
There was a problem with the beta, but I have the RTM version of A2010
installed on the same laptop as A2007, A2003, and A2000.

Same issues: re-registers each time you switch versions, and be sure NOT to
run different versions at the same time.

Also, decompile, compact, and compile a database if you opened it in a
different version.

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Tips for Access users - http://allenbrowne.com/tips.html
Reply to group, rather than allenbrowne at mvps dot org.

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David W. Fenton
 
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Default Re: Access 2010 With Previous Versions? - 05-25-2010 , 12:25 PM



Banana <Banana (AT) Republic (DOT) com> wrote in
news:4BFB24BF.7060500 (AT) Republic (DOT) com:

Quote:
On 5/24/10 4:50 PM, Wayne wrote:
Can anyone confirm that Access 2010 will coexist peacefully on
the same machine with previous versions in the same way that
Access 2007 does?

I briefly tested in a VM that I was about to trash and found that
it'd have the same reconfiguration wait as one had between
2003/2007. Furthermore, I'm inclined to say it's not worth
maintaining side by side installs because you have to be careful
to not open both applications at same time, even by accident.
Under right circumstances, the references can get quite broken.
I do that all the time with A2003 and A2003, and the only thing you
have to be careful with is making sure that you make sure your
preferred version gets fully registered at some point. That means
closing both and running the preferred version.


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David W. Fenton
 
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Default Re: Access 2010 With Previous Versions? - 05-25-2010 , 12:29 PM



Wayne <cqdigital (AT) volcanomail (DOT) com> wrote in
news:1cddd40b-0b6f-4f77-adb6-128c6b02bede (AT) z15g2000prh (DOT) googlegroups.co
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Quote:
On May 25, 11:15*am, Banana <Ban... (AT) Republic (DOT) com> wrote:

I briefly tested in a VM that I was about to trash and found that
it'd have the same reconfiguration wait as one had between
2003/2007. Furthermore, I'm inclined to say it's not worth
maintaining side by side installs because you have to be careful
to not open both applications at same time, even by accident.
Under right circumstances, the references can get quite broken.

Thanks for the reply. Nothing would make me happier than not to
have to maintain several versions. :-) Unfortunately I have
clients that run A2002, A2003, A2007 and undoubtably A2010 in the
near future. I'm not left with any option (other than multiple
development machines or VMs) when I need to compile different
versions into mdes for distribution. I think there are many
others in the same boat.
You should give Windows 7 a good look. I'm a huge, huge fan, and I
have it running on a 7-year-old Thinkpad and it's faster than the
machine was when it was running WinXP. The upgrade was not
completely painless (from XP to Win7 is a new Windows install), but
in this case I wanted to get rid of all traces of the old Windows
and old software. The thing that really impressed me was that all
the hardware and drivers were correctly detected and installed
properly.

I've been putting off the same upgrade on my work laptop only
because its graphics subsystem is not as good as the Thinkpad (even
though it's a newer machine), and doesn't support Aero. I'm not sure
if that will be a performance issue or not (I'm not worried about
losing transparency).

My point in promoting Win7 is that you get WinXP mode, where you can
set up individual virtual machines each with an individual,
independent version of Access. If you're having problems switching
versions (which I am *not* having, BTW), or just don't want to wait
on the re-registration prompts (which I'd love to avoid), the VM in
Win7 would be the way to go, in my opinion.

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Wayne
 
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Default Re: Access 2010 With Previous Versions? - 05-26-2010 , 05:11 PM



On May 25, 11:33*pm, "Allen Browne" <AllenBro... (AT) SeeSig (DOT) invalid>
wrote:

Quote:
There was a problem with the beta, but I have the RTM version of A2010
installed on the same laptop as A2007, A2003, and A2000.

Same issues: re-registers each time you switch versions, and be sure NOT to
run different versions at the same time.

Also, decompile, compact, and compile a database if you opened it in a
different version.
Thanks Allen. I've now installed A2010 alongside A2002, A2003 and
A2007 and the all seem to be living together happily. Off topic, but
since I installed a solid state hard drive the "reinstall" when
changing from 2003 to 2010 takes 13 seconds and 4 seconds when
changing from 2010 to 2003. Best hardware purchase I've made in a
very long time. :-)

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Wayne
 
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Default Re: Access 2010 With Previous Versions? - 05-26-2010 , 05:16 PM



On May 26, 3:29*am, "David W. Fenton" <XXXuse... (AT) dfenton (DOT) com.invalid>
wrote:

Quote:
You should give Windows 7 a good look. I'm a huge, huge fan, and I
have it running on a 7-year-old Thinkpad and it's faster than the
machine was when it was running WinXP.
+1. IMHO Windows 7 is by far the best OS we've seen for a very long
time. I'd almost forgotten about the VM capabilities. I tried it in
an early beta and it was a bit buggy but it obviously works well now.
I think I need to have another look at it.

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Tony Toews [MVP]
 
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Default Re: Access 2010 With Previous Versions? - 05-26-2010 , 09:29 PM



Wayne <cqdigital (AT) volcanomail (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:
Off topic, but
since I installed a solid state hard drive the "reinstall" when
changing from 2003 to 2010 takes 13 seconds and 4 seconds when
changing from 2010 to 2003. Best hardware purchase I've made in a
very long time. :-)
Ahh, very interesting. I've been reading about those with a certain amount of lust.
Trouble is I do all my work on a laptop so not really room for two drives as I'd like
to keep lots of misc non work related files around.

Tony
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Tony's Microsoft Access Blog - http://msmvps.com/blogs/access/
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