This has been circulating behind the scenes for a couple of weeks but
now it is out there in public:

http://www.ingres.com/about/newsroom...gement-systems

Compared with previous magic quadrants, Ingres is seen to have a more
complete vision and markedly increased ability to execute. That pushes
it from the "niche player" square to the "challengers" square.

The progress is very definitely in the right direction. I suspect there
is more interesting stuff in the pipeline too, so watch this proverbial
space.

--
Roy

UK Ingres User Association Conference 2011 will be on Tuesday June 7 2011.
Put the date in your diary today.

Hi Roy,

Can you please add these questions to your list of "Ingres Q&A"
questions at the next UKIUA?

1. Why have Ingres Corp. binned so many employees in recent years?
2. What's happened to the much fanfared GeoSpacial Project and the
whole idea of an Ingres "Community"?
3. Why are Ingres Corp. pushing Vectorwise over its own RDBMS like CA
tried pushing Jasmine and neglecting Ingres?

Thanks.

G.V.

Every company does restructuring from time to time, Ingres is not
different from that perspective. They are pushing VectorWise because
that is where they think the profit is.

The idea of the Ingres community is still there. Community exists no
matter what people think. The forum I am sending this message from shows
that. UK IUA shows too that the community exists.

Both RDBMS and GeoSpatial are open-source projects, and can be
developed by anyone. I am sure both will be pretty much alive.


--
dejan

Geo Victim wrote:

This is sensitive stuff and some of my acquaintances are among those who
have been "binned" as you put it. Your pseudonym and tone suggest you
are one of them.

Looking at it as an outsider I see there is hiring going on to
fill specific positions, plus the VectorWise development team has just
been added to the payroll:
http://www.cwi.nl/news/2011/cwi-spin...es-corporation.

I hear a lot of stuff but I don't get updates on the headcount. It's
not obvious to me that there's been any net change. I'm sorry to see
friends go but I'm glad to see the company hiring and reconfiguring
itself to aggressively pursue new technology. It's looking downright
vigorous to me.

I admit I never really followed geospatial. I suppose it was a business
decision. The projected revenue probably wasn't going to ramp up fast
enough to justify the spending. The owners have been investing pretty
freely lately but I'm sure there are limits.

Presumably all the work done to date is still out there and could be
continued by anyone who is minded to?

I don't understand this question.

That comparison is invidious.

Ingres Corp is adding VectorWise capabilities to Ingres. VectorWise,
clever though it is, needs Ingres in order to work, and it addresses
entirely different use cases than "classic" Ingres. VectorWise
complements Ingres and in fact is driving enhancements to Ingres.
VectorWise might be changing the development priorities within Ingres
Corp but it sure isn't resulting in neglect--quite the opposite. Hence
the improved placement in the Gartner square.

--
Roy

UK Ingres User Association Conference 2011 will be on Tuesday June 7 2011.
Put the date in your diary today.

On Feb 8, 2011, at 8:06 AM, Geo Victim wrote:

Dear G.V.,

Let me gently suggest that PostGIS is what happened to Ingres GeoSpatial.

I have no idea if Ingres GS was better or worse than PostGIS, but I'm at a
Fortune 500 company right now that finds PostGIS about an order of magnitude
faster than Oracle Spatial.

My experience with PostGIS has been very positive.

Cheers,

Mike Leo

Michael Leo
Kettle River Consulting

On Feb 8, 3:06*pm, Geo Victim <geovic... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
whatever happened to Jasmine.....or any other OO db ?

I am now using Postgres, which describes itself as an ORDBMS....it
seems just like an RDBMS to me

ps Ingres always suffered from 'low-visibility'