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Default Research into onbar - 07-27-2007 , 04:21 AM






I am trying to find out if anybody has any experiences of using onbar in an
"emergency" situation. Especially with an "imported" restore or a "rename
files" situation.

I would be interested in knowing what operating system, what versions of
IDS, and what backup storage manager was being used, and what caused the
"emergency".



This is part of some research I am doing into "emergency" backup and restore
of databases and operating systems.



Good and Bad experiences are equally important.



Regards



Malcolm





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Default Re: Research into onbar - 07-27-2007 , 06:38 AM






In my experience of "emergencies" onbar is find but ISM has its
limitations. ISM is "legato light" and is really only intended for
backup and recover on a standalone system

If clients have other business requirements then they should look at
"proper" archive and storage managers such as Tivoli and full Legato


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Default Re: Research into onbar - 07-27-2007 , 03:20 PM



On 27 Jul, 11:38, scottishpoet <drybur... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
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In my experience of "emergencies" onbar is find but ISM has its
limitations. ISM is "legato light" and is really only intended for
backup and recover on a standalone system

If clients have other business requirements then they should look at
"proper" archive and storage managers such as Tivoli and full Legato
What, you mean pay extra for things DB2, Oracle, Sybase and MSSQL can
do without having to pay extra?

Train people to learn another product just to be able to backup/
restore a database?

Surely Informix should be able to backup/restore the database in the
same way that DB2, Oracle, Sybase and MSSQL can
without replying on another product?



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Art S. Kagel
 
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Default Re: Research into onbar - 07-27-2007 , 06:13 PM



On Jul 27, 3:20 pm, "da... (AT) smooth1 (DOT) co.uk" <da... (AT) smooth1 (DOT) co.uk> wrote:
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On 27 Jul, 11:38, scottishpoet <drybur... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

In my experience of "emergencies" onbar is find but ISM has its
limitations. ISM is "legato light" and is really only intended for
backup and recover on a standalone system

If clients have other business requirements then they should look at
"proper" archive and storage managers such as Tivoli and full Legato

What, you mean pay extra for things DB2, Oracle, Sybase and MSSQL can
do without having to pay extra?

Train people to learn another product just to be able to backup/
restore a database?

Surely Informix should be able to backup/restore the database in the
same way that DB2, Oracle, Sybase and MSSQL can
without replying on another product?
That's just baiting David. Informix pioneered online back up and
restores an ontape is still more capable and easier to use with or
without training than the 'other guys' back up systems.

Art S. Kagel



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scottishpoet
 
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Default Re: Research into onbar - 07-30-2007 , 06:44 AM



On Jul 27, 8:20 pm, "da... (AT) smooth1 (DOT) co.uk" <da... (AT) smooth1 (DOT) co.uk> wrote:
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On 27 Jul, 11:38, scottishpoet <drybur... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

In my experience of "emergencies" onbar is find but ISM has its
limitations. ISM is "legato light" and is really only intended for
backup and recover on a standalone system
David,

Informix has a number of tools if all you want to do is "backup a
database"

Oracle DB2 etc also work with legato, tivoli etc in more business
critical environments when you want to focus on "disaster recovery"
and "fault tolerance" which are specialist tools that may be more
appropriate than what is supplied as default with the database
component of your "24x7" solution.

Similarly,.Informix provides the capability of performing disk
mirroring and HDR yet there are other methods that can be used to do
this depending on what your business requirements are. People don't
question using specialist storage systems that offer "RAID 5 or RAID
1+0" when informix offers its own mirroring.



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scottishpoet
 
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Default Re: Research into onbar - 07-31-2007 , 06:59 AM



Tivoli Storage manager for Databases :

http://www.ibm.com/software/tivoli/p...torage-mgr-db/

Note it works with a number of well known databases


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