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Andrew Hamm
 
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Default Relative grunt of Sunfire V490 vs. Dell R710 - 10-27-2011 , 12:45 AM






Hi folks,

I was wondering if someone could shed light on the relative
performance of a Sun Sunfire V490 with 16Gb and 8-CPU (4 x 2-core
chips I'm guessing) in comparison with a Dell R710 with, let's say the
same 16Gb and also 8 cores.

The Sun needs replacing and the R710 is put forward as an option. The
Sun is currently against a big fat SAN, and the Dell will hook into
the same.

The boxes are purely for Informix engines; previous is V9's and 10's
on the Sun, and the Dells will have 11.70 The Suns are coping
acceptably with their load, averaging around 20% CPU idle across all
the cores, so there's no obvious need to significantly outgun their
performances.

Any clues about relative performance as a replacement would be most
welcome.

Cheers

PS hey guys, how are you all these days? Gainfully and happily
employed I hope?

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Art Kagel
 
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Default Re: Relative grunt of Sunfire V490 vs. Dell R710 - 10-27-2011 , 02:17 AM






You will be trading 2.1GHZ SPARC processors for 3 or 3.5 GHZ Intel
processors. The new machine should be significantly faster.

Art

Art S. Kagel
Advanced DataTools (www.advancedatatools.com)
Blog: http://informix-myview.blogspot.com/

Disclaimer: Please keep in mind that my own opinions are my own opinions and
do not reflect on my employer, Advanced DataTools, the IIUG, nor any other
organization with which I am associated either explicitly, implicitly, or by
inference. Neither do those opinions reflect those of other individuals
affiliated with any entity with which I am affiliated nor those of the
entities themselves.



On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 10:45 PM, Andrew Hamm <ahamm (AT) mail (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:
Hi folks,

I was wondering if someone could shed light on the relative
performance of a Sun Sunfire V490 with 16Gb and 8-CPU (4 x 2-core
chips I'm guessing) in comparison with a Dell R710 with, let's say the
same 16Gb and also 8 cores.

The Sun needs replacing and the R710 is put forward as an option. The
Sun is currently against a big fat SAN, and the Dell will hook into
the same.

The boxes are purely for Informix engines; previous is V9's and 10's
on the Sun, and the Dells will have 11.70 The Suns are coping
acceptably with their load, averaging around 20% CPU idle across all
the cores, so there's no obvious need to significantly outgun their
performances.

Any clues about relative performance as a replacement would be most
welcome.

Cheers

PS hey guys, how are you all these days? Gainfully and happily
employed I hope?
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Andrew Hamm
 
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Default Re: Relative grunt of Sunfire V490 vs. Dell R710 - 10-27-2011 , 03:02 AM



On Oct 27, 6:17*pm, Art Kagel <art.ka... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
Quote:
You will be trading 2.1GHZ SPARC processors for 3 or 3.5 GHZ Intel
processors. *The new machine should be significantly faster.

Art

Art S. Kagel
Thanks for the speedy reply. I was expecting at least a factor of a
few between the Intel/PC based architecture and any Sun server. The
intel boxes really compete on equal footings these days? I'm a bit
surprised...

So where's everybody these days? Traffic looks very light, and not a
Clown or Gumby to be seen - at least on the first page. Is Usenet past
it's use-by date? Where's all the Informix forum action now?

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Everett Mills
 
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Default RE: Relative grunt of Sunfire V490 vs. Dell R710 - 10-27-2011 , 07:39 AM



I get far more posts from the IIUG's IDS list, maybe on the order of 20-1.

--EEM

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-----Original Message-----
From: informix-list-bounces (AT) iiug (DOT) org [mailto:informix-list-
bounces (AT) iiug (DOT) org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hamm
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 3:02 AM
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Subject: Re: Relative grunt of Sunfire V490 vs. Dell R710

On Oct 27, 6:17*pm, Art Kagel <art.ka... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
You will be trading 2.1GHZ SPARC processors for 3 or 3.5 GHZ Intel
processors. *The new machine should be significantly faster.

Art

Art S. Kagel

Thanks for the speedy reply. I was expecting at least a factor of a few
between the Intel/PC based architecture and any Sun server. The intel
boxes really compete on equal footings these days? I'm a bit
surprised...

So where's everybody these days? Traffic looks very light, and not a
Clown or Gumby to be seen - at least on the first page. Is Usenet past
it's use-by date? Where's all the Informix forum action now?
_______________________________________________
Informix-list mailing list
Informix-list (AT) iiug (DOT) org
http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list

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Alexandre Marini
 
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Default Re: Relative grunt of Sunfire V490 vs. Dell R710 - 10-27-2011 , 08:45 AM



I think most people are participating in IOD - Vegas event
(except for us kkkkkkkkk)


Em 27/10/2011 08:39, Everett Mills escreveu:
Quote:
I get far more posts from the IIUG's IDS list, maybe on the order of 20-1.

--EEM

-----Original Message-----
From: informix-list-bounces (AT) iiug (DOT) org [mailto:informix-list-
bounces (AT) iiug (DOT) org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hamm
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 3:02 AM
To: informix-list (AT) iiug (DOT) org
Subject: Re: Relative grunt of Sunfire V490 vs. Dell R710

On Oct 27, 6:17 pm, Art Kagel<art.ka... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
You will be trading 2.1GHZ SPARC processors for 3 or 3.5 GHZ Intel
processors. The new machine should be significantly faster.

Art

Art S. Kagel
Thanks for the speedy reply. I was expecting at least a factor of a few
between the Intel/PC based architecture and any Sun server. The intel
boxes really compete on equal footings these days? I'm a bit
surprised...

So where's everybody these days? Traffic looks very light, and not a
Clown or Gumby to be seen - at least on the first page. Is Usenet past
it's use-by date? Where's all the Informix forum action now?
_______________________________________________
Informix-list mailing list
Informix-list (AT) iiug (DOT) org
http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list
_______________________________________________
Informix-list mailing list
Informix-list (AT) iiug (DOT) org
http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list


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Alexandre Marini

Tecnologia da Informação - DBA

SEFAZ-MS / SGI-UGSR / Sistemas IBM-Informix

<Cert-Info-Mgmt_color.jpg>

IBM Certified System Administrator - Informix Dynamic Server V10 / V11 /
V11.70

IBM Information Management Informix Technical Professional v3

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Art Kagel
 
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Default Re: Relative grunt of Sunfire V490 vs. Dell R710 - 10-27-2011 , 10:13 AM



Several folk, including most of the IBMers are here at IOD and most of the
traffic is now on the IIUG IDS forum (about 1000 posts/month).

Yes, modern Intel x86/64 boxes running Linux can compete favorably with
anything else out there. Only at the top end w/100s of cores do the Sun,
HP, and IBM P-series machines exceed their capacity.

Art

Art S. Kagel
Advanced DataTools (www.advancedatatools.com)
Blog: http://informix-myview.blogspot.com/

Disclaimer: Please keep in mind that my own opinions are my own opinions and
do not reflect on my employer, Advanced DataTools, the IIUG, nor any other
organization with which I am associated either explicitly, implicitly, or by
inference. Neither do those opinions reflect those of other individuals
affiliated with any entity with which I am affiliated nor those of the
entities themselves.



On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 4:02 AM, Andrew Hamm <ahamm (AT) mail (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:
On Oct 27, 6:17 pm, Art Kagel <art.ka... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
You will be trading 2.1GHZ SPARC processors for 3 or 3.5 GHZ Intel
processors. The new machine should be significantly faster.

Art

Art S. Kagel

Thanks for the speedy reply. I was expecting at least a factor of a
few between the Intel/PC based architecture and any Sun server. The
intel boxes really compete on equal footings these days? I'm a bit
surprised...

So where's everybody these days? Traffic looks very light, and not a
Clown or Gumby to be seen - at least on the first page. Is Usenet past
it's use-by date? Where's all the Informix forum action now?
_______________________________________________
Informix-list mailing list
Informix-list (AT) iiug (DOT) org
http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list

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Andrew Hamm
 
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Default Re: Relative grunt of Sunfire V490 vs. Dell R710 - 10-27-2011 , 09:34 PM



On Oct 27, 11:39*pm, Everett Mills <Everett.Mi... (AT) nationalbeef (DOT) com>
wrote:
Quote:
I get far more posts from the IIUG's IDS list, maybe on the order of 20-1..

* * * * * * * * --EEM

I wish I could remember my IIUG membership number; that plus no longer
having the email address I used for the registration, I can't get into
the member area. A flaming tragedy. I guess a re-reg is on the cards.

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Andrew Hamm
 
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Default Re: Relative grunt of Sunfire V490 vs. Dell R710 - 10-27-2011 , 09:37 PM



On Oct 28, 2:13*am, Art Kagel <art.ka... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
Quote:
Several folk, including most of the IBMers are here at IOD and most of the
traffic is now on the IIUG IDS forum (about 1000 posts/month).

Yes, modern Intel x86/64 boxes running Linux can compete favorably with
anything else out there. *Only at the top end w/100s of cores do the Sun,
HP, and IBM P-series machines exceed their capacity.

Art

Great - good to know. Item 1 answered.

I'm preparing a big terabyte-sized migration in concert with
horrendously tiny downtime requirements, so I'll be asking a fair few
dumb questions to cover my rusty memory on replication trickery too.

Cheers

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