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red_valsen@yahoo.com
 
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Default No Trust/No HDR? - 03-01-2010 , 12:16 PM






Is it necessary to use either a hosts.equiv or .rhosts file to
maintain a "trust" between two hosts which are members of an HDR
pair? Is there any _secure_ method to establish and maintain the
trust which the informixserver recognizes aside from using a dated
technique that has well-documented vulnerabilities and well-known
exploits? Do the DR encryption onconfig parameters have a bearing on
this problem?

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Nilesh Ozarkar
 
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Default Re: No Trust/No HDR? - 03-01-2010 , 01:11 PM






informix-list-bounces (AT) iiug (DOT) org wrote on 03/01/2010 12:16:26 PM:
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No Trust/No HDR?

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Is it necessary to use either a hosts.equiv or .rhosts file to
maintain a "trust" between two hosts which are members of an HDR
pair? Is there any _secure_ method to establish and maintain the
trust which the informixserver recognizes aside from using a dated
technique that has well-documented vulnerabilities and well-known
exploits?
There is a way -- refer to
http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infoce...ids_am_032.htm


In short, you need to set security option (s=6) in sqlhosts file and create
hosts.equiv in $INFORMIXDIR/etc.


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Do the DR encryption onconfig parameters have a bearing on
this problem?
Encryption won't help in authentication, it's for data encryption only.
For encryption -- refer --
http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infoce...admin_0946.htm


HTH,:

- Nilesh -


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Ian Michael Gumby
 
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Default RE: No Trust/No HDR? - 03-01-2010 , 01:23 PM



Don't ever use .rhosts file.
Host equiv only if you know that you're behind a good firewall and that youonly do this for one application where you can control the entries in host..equiv.

Both are very old and insecure. Especially .rhosts .
Can you say "Morris Worm"
http://spaf.cerias.purdue.edu/tech-reps/933.pdf
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morris_worm

The first link is to Gene Spafford's paper on what happened.
The second is the typical wiki entry.

If you take the time to read the paper, you'll understand some of the issues of the .rhosts and hosts.equiv.
Not good and there are alternatives that exist which may replace this method.


Now I'm going to show my age by saying that I used to have a 9 track of theworm and e-mails from admins talking about it.... ;-)

-G


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Subject: No Trust/No HDR?
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 10:16:26 -0800
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Is it necessary to use either a hosts.equiv or .rhosts file to
maintain a "trust" between two hosts which are members of an HDR
pair? Is there any _secure_ method to establish and maintain the
trust which the informixserver recognizes aside from using a dated
technique that has well-documented vulnerabilities and well-known
exploits? Do the DR encryption onconfig parameters have a bearing on
this problem?
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Fernando Nunes
 
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Default Re: No Trust/No HDR? - 03-01-2010 , 02:10 PM



red_valsen (AT) yahoo (DOT) com wrote:
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Is it necessary to use either a hosts.equiv or .rhosts file to
maintain a "trust" between two hosts which are members of an HDR
pair? Is there any _secure_ method to establish and maintain the
trust which the informixserver recognizes aside from using a dated
technique that has well-documented vulnerabilities and well-known
exploits? Do the DR encryption onconfig parameters have a bearing on
this problem?
The "good" reply was already sent (at least in IIUG lists).
In any case I would like to be pointed to those well-documented
vulnerabilities and well-known exploits. My request has a catch as you
might expect, but I honestly would like to be proven wrong.

Thanks in advance.
Regards.

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