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Paul Watson

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Re: Kansas City, gateway to ..... - 12-28-2007 , 12:28 AM

Neil Truby wrote:

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"Sebastian, Norma J." <NormaJean.Sebastian (AT) tellabs (DOT) com> wrote in message
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Neil, Art,
.
I saw this on the late news last night, looked like a pretty good option
with the risk that they are a new carrier.

Thanks Norma. I booked a BA flight, change in Chicago to a United flight to
Kansas. The latest flight out of Kansas City consistent with getting a
same-night flight home leaves at 4pm. I understand that the airport is a
long way from the Marriott so I'll have to miss the last arvo of the
conference.

Paul W warns against O'Hare Immigration. Having just come back from the US,
and added Tampa to my repetoire of US Immigration posts, I have to say that
they are uniformly miserable whereever you go. The lines are worst in NY
and Orlando in my experience, where you can easily queue for an hour.
There's never the slightest smile, let alone "Welcome Back to the US, Mr
Truby" from Immigration. This is in contrast to the more-or-less uniformly
friendly attitude of the "ordinary" Americans we meet once there. There's
quite a lot of pressure from the US Tourist Industry for the Immigration
Service to smarten up its act and create a better First Impression. I was
talking to one of the Virgin Atlantic hosties on the way home and she said
they get the same attitude: she thinks they may deliberately be trained to
spurn any personal interaction in order not to beinfluenced. It's a shame
though, becasue almost every visitor to the US I know comments on this.

The airport is well less than the hour from the airport, MCI is one of

the easiest airport to fly in and out of.

Never had a single problem with US immigration apart from the length of
the queues in O'Hare. I've done 15 minutes flight to flight via Newark
and that included immagration. I find Housten the easiest for immigration.

Cheers
Paul

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Ian Michael Gumby

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RE: Kansas City, gateway to ..... - 12-28-2007 , 10:34 AM

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From: neil.truby (AT) ardenta (DOT) com
Subject: Re: Kansas City, gateway to .....
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 22:59:54 +0000
To: informix-list (AT) iiug (DOT) org

You're already looking to the "next" event before the first event is even
off the ground. :-) The reason KC was chosen was due to the large number
of IBM employees who could be used as speakers without having IBM to
spend a "dime" since they work down the road. This is supposed to be a
"no frills" down and dirty user event.

Yes, all true. It's certainly a great value conference, to be able to
register for about £210.
It's just a difficult place to get to and - shock horror! - I'm going to
have to fly on a US airline at least part of the way to get there ;-)

Consider it a small sacrifice.

Just don't wear a kilt or a T-shirt that the flight crew might find offensive.
Or just see if you can find a flight on Hooters Air. ;-)

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Ian Michael Gumby

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RE: Kansas City, gateway to ..... - 12-28-2007 , 10:39 AM

Uhm,

Do you really want to fly anything called "Skybus" ? :-)

And yes, Cow-lumbus OH is their main hub. So you'll be spending the night at one of the "no tell motels" by the airport.

If you try and practice a midwestern accent and say "How you doing?" to theguys at the immigrations counter in Terminal 5, they do treat you nicely.
(I kid you not. A friend's father in law is from CapeTown and did exactly that. ;-)

Seriously, your best bet is to come through OHare, but skip United until they get their flight crew situation figured out.
Or fly to St.Louis and drive.

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Subject: RE: Kansas City, gateway to .....
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 20:15:57 -0600
From: NormaJean.Sebastian (AT) tellabs (DOT) com
To: neil.truby (AT) ardenta (DOT) com; informix-list (AT) iiug (DOT) org; art.kagel (AT) gmail (DOT) com

Neil, Art,
.
I saw this on the late news last night, looked like a pretty good option
with the risk that they are a new carrier.
Art - this might work nicely for you, it might enable you to fly odd
hours and "puddle jump" half way.
.
Check this out: www.skybus.com
.
I don't know about overseas but flying in the states is pretty much a
"bus in the air/cattle truck" no frills experience these days unless you
pay the big bucks. Depending on what airport you can depart from on the
east/west coast, you can get to Kansas City, but you will have to change
planes in Columbus, Ohio (the main hub for this new carrier).
.
I queried the site.... I found a round trip price for $86.30 US
piggybacked with a round trip for $90.80 US and I got from New York
(Newburgh) to Kansas City with an overnight in Columbus to get to
conference. After conference I got back to New York on the return legs
of the round trips with no overnight in Columbus.
.
Details:
Flight 1, roundtrip = $86.30 US
Flight 2, roundtrip = $90.80 US
.
Flight1 : first leg: depart New York (Newburgh, NY) Friday April 25 at
10:54 AM
. arrive Columbus, Ohio, Friday April 25 at
12:24 PM
(ok, you'd have an overnight in Columbus or you'd have only 4 minutes to
make the connection)
Flight 2: first leg: depart Columbus, Ohio, Saturday April 26 at 12:28
PM
. arrive Kansas City, Missouri, Saturday April
26 at 1:14 PM
IIUG Conference...
Flight 2: return leg: depart Kansas City, Missouri, Thursday May 1 at
1:39 PM
. arrive Columbus Ohio, Thursday May 1 at
4:14 PM
Flight 1: return leg: depart Columbus Ohio, Thursday May 1 at 6:24 PM
. arrive New York (Newburgh, NY), Thursday
May 1 at 7:48 PM.
.
Norma Jean
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Ian Michael Gumby

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RE: Kansas City, gateway to ..... - 12-31-2007 , 01:48 PM

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Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 23:28:06 -0600
From: paul (AT) oninit (DOT) com
Subject: Re: Kansas City, gateway to .....
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Never had a single problem with US immigration apart from the length of
the queues in O'Hare. I've done 15 minutes flight to flight via Newark
and that included immagration. I find Housten the easiest for immigration..

Cheers
Paul

Well I guess some people do *like* the cavity searches. ;-)

Of course if the Brits had anything comparable to our "red necks", Paul would be the poster child.

-G

PS. All said in fun. Everybody, including Da Maroon, have a Happy New Year!

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