I just want sharing some nice and cool Google tools about the users searchs and pages indexed over the world...* focused in Informix/db2

What surprise-me is the increase search of "what is informix"* .
I think this is good and bad... good because more people is "seeing" Informix... the bad is, how they don't know what is Informix!!!??*

I always think this is only here in Brazil where mostly of the developers and IT managers don't know or never hear about Informix... now I have doubt if this is for hole world.

http://www.google.com/insights/searc...%2012-m&cmpt=q

http://www.google.com/trends?q=infor...e=ytd&s ort=0

Its bad because what it means is that Informix is becoming a legacy system where people may see a requirement to know Informix, or someone may be moving away from Informix and migrating to another database.

I just had a discussion with an SE from a company that OEMs Informix. Granted he's not in the know, but because IBM doesn't promote or market IDS, there is FUD that IDS may be going away or not being enhanced or supported. Is this true? It doesn't matter what I say, its the FUD (Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt) that exists. (SO DON'T BLAME GUMBY).

I'll give you an example... Lester puts on a bunch of demos and classes about how to build a Data Warehouse using IDS in a relatively short period of time. (Weeks).
So IDS can act as a DW platform. But who really cares? IBM promotes DB2 but not IDS. (I can testify to that fact when I attended a recent Big Blue SWG dog and pony show in Chicago. (Merv A. was one of the key note speaker. The other was the Product Manager for DB2).

So if I'm a perspective IBM customer. Am I going to build a data warehouse using IDS, or DB2? Here's a free clue guys... If you are going to buy a product of a vendor, you go with what the vendor is recommending, you don't go with the tool that *could be used* but the tool that is being *supported* for that purpose. (I can put a bumper hitch on a Cooper Mini, but that doesn't mean I want to use it to tow a large trailer.) Or if I'm goingto hit a database, I'd want to use Java, ESQL/C or some other supported access method. Sure I can use Python or Perl, but they are not really supported or intended as the heavy lifting database access language... right? I mean I can use Python, Ruby , Perl but I wouldn't bet my life on it.. ;-)

Also to put things in perspective... In that same time period, I could build out (hardware too) a data warehouse to handle PBs (Peta Bytes) of data using Hadoop and NoSQL tools. (And yes I have sat with several of the design teams at a client to do just that.)

But I digress.

When you talk to people who have been around in IT for 20 years... they allremember Informix. Vaguely. To many... Informix died when IBM bought them and Informix became irrelevant because they relegate DB2 to the mainframe.

But hey! What do I know? ;-)

-G


Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 05:22:35 -0700
From: cesar_inacio_martins (AT) yahoo (DOT) com.br
Subject: Insights & trends
To: informix-list (AT) iiug (DOT) org

I just want sharing some nice and cool Google tools about the users searchs and pages indexed over the world... focused in Informix/db2

What surprise-me is the increase search of "what is informix" .
I think this is good and bad... good because more people is "seeing" Informix... the bad is, how they don't know what is Informix!!!??

I always think this is only here in Brazil where mostly of the developers and IT managers don't know or never hear about Informix... now I have doubt if this is for hole world.

http://www.google.com/insights/searc...%2012-m&cmpt=q

http://www.google.com/trends?q=infor...e=ytd&s ort=0








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Hi Cesar,

I believe the increase in searches for Informix is a result of the
increased presence we have had over the past several months. Certainly
our release last week also has resulted in renewed interest. We have
received very positive feedback from the many analysts that we have
briefed on the new release. You can also read a letter from Rob Thomas to
the community which is posted on the IIUG web site which speaks to even
more focus on Informix inside of IBM.

Regards,
Jerry




From:
Cesar Inacio Martins <cesar_inacio_martins (AT) yahoo (DOT) com.br>
To:
informix-list cdi <informix-list (AT) iiug (DOT) org>
Date:
10/22/2010 07:23 AM
Subject:
Insights & trends




I just want sharing some nice and cool Google tools about the users
searchs and pages indexed over the world... focused in Informix/db2

What surprise-me is the increase search of "what is informix" .
I think this is good and bad... good because more people is "seeing"
Informix... the bad is, how they don't know what is Informix!!!??

I always think this is only here in Brazil where mostly of the developers
and IT managers don't know or never hear about Informix... now I have
doubt if this is for hole world.

http://www.google.com/insights/searc...%2012-m&cmpt=q


http://www.google.com/trends?q=infor...e=ytd&s ort=0




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Informix-list (AT) iiug (DOT) org
http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list

Hmmm.

I guess its time for Jerry to try and put a positive spin on things. :-)

I mean heck.. I guess those days of 'double digit growth' are long gone.

But no offense Jerry, a "What is Informix" as a query on Google doesn't mean good things.
If anything it means that IBM releases a new version of IDS and people who are paid to watch IBM say "Huh? What's Informix?". And that's the best spinyou can put on it.
Worst case? Its another client like Sears that goes DB2 and MySQL to replace their Informix environment. (Oh and they have Hadoop now too. ;-)
But I digress....

C'mon Jerry, you want to play the spin game, try and be more honest.

IBM's latest dog and pony show was all about DB2. Of course look on the bright side. In Chicago, the bulk of the audience was IBMers with a handful of IBM customers present.
That's the public image from IBM. So where's IDS?


Aww Jerry, where's the love?

C'mon, the first step to solving your problem is to recognize that you actually *have* a problem. :-)

But hey! What do I know?
Even IBM IM's analytics group is using Hadoop.

-G




To: cesar_inacio_martins (AT) yahoo (DOT) com.br
Subject: Re: Insights & trends
From: jkeesee (AT) us (DOT) ibm.com
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 14:36:26 -0500
CC: informix-list-bounces (AT) iiug (DOT) org; informix-list (AT) iiug (DOT) org



Hi Cesar,



I believe the increase in searches for
Informix is a result of the increased presence we have had over the past
several months. Certainly our release last week also has resulted
in renewed interest. We have received very positive feedback from
the many analysts that we have briefed on the new release. You can
also read a letter from Rob Thomas to the community which is posted on
the IIUG web site which speaks to even more focus on Informix inside of
IBM.



Regards,

Jerry










From:
Cesar Inacio Martins <cesar_inacio_martins (AT) yahoo (DOT) com.br>

To:
informix-list cdi <informix-list (AT) iiug (DOT) org>

Date:
10/22/2010 07:23 AM

Subject:
Insights & trends











I just want sharing some nice and cool Google tools about
the users searchs and pages indexed over the world... focused in
Informix/db2



What surprise-me is the increase search of "what is informix"
.

I think this is good and bad... good because more people is "seeing"
Informix... the bad is, how they don't know what is Informix!!!??



I always think this is only here in Brazil where mostly of the developers
and IT managers don't know or never hear about Informix... now I have doubt
if this is for hole world.



http://www.google.com/insights/searc...%2012-m&cmpt=q



http://www.google.com/trends?q=infor...e=ytd&s ort=0







_______________________________________________

Informix-list mailing list

Informix-list (AT) iiug (DOT) org

http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list






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Informix-list (AT) iiug (DOT) org
http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list

LOL...

Yes you're suffering from a lack of sleep.

Here's the issue. "What is Informix" is a question showing that there is interest in trying to figure out what Informix is.
What that means is that Informix is a non-issue in terms of the market place.

With respect to 'internal queries' well that could mean a lot of things.
But when you look at the bigger picture... IBM IM is pushing DB2 as its database of choice.
Maybe you can get traction with the Client Reps who cover the white space.

What tells more is the lack of column data types in IDS yet present in DB2.Why that's important is that it gives some insight in to the larger picture and trends of IBM. ;-)
Now that may sound cryptic, but yeah, you know what I say. ;-)


Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2010 01:14:44 +0100
Subject: Re: Insights & trends
From: domusonline (AT) gmail (DOT) com
To: informix-list (AT) iiug (DOT) org

The concept of someone using Informix and wanting to change going to Googleand ask "what is Informix" amazes me.... Will google be smart enough to answer "It's the database, stupid"?

Must be too sleepy to dig this!


Panther did raise hits on my blog...

More interesting than that are the internal queries... But as you always say, "I know more than I can talk about"
Regards.