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Default RE: IDS on a Mac? - 10-18-2007 , 08:08 AM








Quote:
Anything come of this?

It was announced at IOD this week that a Mac port of IDS is in
progress, targeted for the next point
release of Cheetah expected next year.

Regards
Guy
Woo Wooo!

That rocks....

I hope they release a free Express version and put it out at all the
Universities.
I have been reading about many College stores selling more Macs than
PCs.

It would be interesting to prime the waters with IDS at that low level.

Too bad it is not feasible to con Apple to install it in Leopard as a
default software, like perl.

Sam


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Default Re: IDS on a Mac? - 10-18-2007 , 09:12 AM






On Oct 18, 8:08 am, "Gentsch, Samuel" <SAM_GENT... (AT) homedepot (DOT) com>
wrote:
Quote:
Anything come of this?
It was announced at IOD this week that a Mac port of IDS is in

progress, targeted for the next point

release of Cheetah expected next year.
Regards
Guy

Woo Wooo!

That rocks....

I hope they release a free Express version and put it out at all the
Universities.
I have been reading about many College stores selling more Macs than
PCs.

It would be interesting to prime the waters with IDS at that low level.

Too bad it is not feasible to con Apple to install it in Leopard as a
default software, like perl.

Sam
Someone else just posted this. A free IDS 11.10 Developer's addition
with easy to find links to the CSDK and iConnect modules on the
download page to boot:

http://www-306.ibm.com/software/data...ids/developer/

It's not IDS Express, but it's a good start.

Art S. Kagel



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Default Re: IDS on a Mac? - 10-18-2007 , 09:38 AM



"Guy ." <gbowerman (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
Anything come of this?
It was announced at IOD this week that a Mac port of IDS is in progress,
targeted for the next point release of Cheetah expected next year.
May I ask a heretical question?
Why?




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Default Re: IDS on a Mac? - 10-18-2007 , 09:42 AM



Captain Pedantic wrote:
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"Guy ." <gbowerman (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:mailman.244.1192664490.26742.informix-list (AT) iiug (DOT) org...

Anything come of this?
It was announced at IOD this week that a Mac port of IDS is in progress,
targeted for the next point release of Cheetah expected next year.


May I ask a heretical question?
Why?


Because it is a new market where DB2 has no presence, perhaps? ?


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Default Re: IDS on a Mac? - 10-18-2007 , 09:49 AM





That figures.

OTC is definitely a clown.
I don't think of MySQL as a real database anyways.
But I guess you could have said Sybase.... ;-)

On the handset, I would first go with Derby but that's a totally different
piece of the puzzle and it would depend on what the handset would support. A
small C based solution? ...

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Ian Michael Gumby wrote:
Unfortunately not.

Silly me, I seem to recall that Larry Ellison sits on Apples board. Or
am I dating myself? ;-)

A certain Apple exec once joked to me (again, many moons ago) that if
there were a database port to Apple, it would probably be an Oracle
port since Steve and Larry are such good friends.

Having said that, there's this thing called "location based
services". This is a very young industry and there's a lot of things
that have been talked about, but if you get down to it, the logistics
are a killer. (Meaning the concept looks good, but try to implement
them and you're in a world of trouble.)

I think that there's one DB that could work, and no, its not DB2 and
no, its not Oracle.
(I'll leave it to your imagination who's left.... ;-)

MySQL?


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Default Re: IDS on a Mac? - 10-18-2007 , 10:06 AM






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From: "Art S. Kagel" <art.kagel (AT) gmail (DOT) com


Someone else just posted this. A free IDS 11.10 Developer's addition
with easy to find links to the CSDK and iConnect modules on the
download page to boot:

http://www-306.ibm.com/software/data...ids/developer/

It's not IDS Express, but it's a good start.

Art S. Kagel

It looks like a developers kit like the CSDK.

Only problem. Its missing python.

No offense to Jonathan L, but Python much nicer and better than perl.
I think C Hasse ?sp? is doing a bang up job on the informix connection piece
even though I haven't really had time to play with it. (I'm stuck using
cx_Oracle which blows!)

But getting back to the issue at hand, an IDS port to Apple's Mach (OS-X)
isn't going to be done for the masses. There is definitely a reason for the
port.

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Default Re: IDS on a Mac? - 10-18-2007 , 10:10 AM




Quote:
Captain Pedantic wrote:
"Guy ." <gbowerman (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:mailman.244.1192664490.26742.informix-list (AT) iiug (DOT) org...

Anything come of this?
It was announced at IOD this week that a Mac port of IDS is in
progress,
targeted for the next point release of Cheetah expected next year.


May I ask a heretical question?
Why?


Because it is a new market where DB2 has no presence, perhaps? ?

No, because it fits in to a market where IDS already has presence. ;-)

Sorry if that statement is a bit cryptic. Those who know me, who my current
client is, and something about my past might understand what I am referring
to.

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Default Re: IDS on a Mac? - 10-18-2007 , 10:22 AM



On Thu, 2007-10-18 at 14:06 +0000, Ian Michael Gumby wrote:
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Only problem. Its missing python.

No offense to Jonathan L, but Python much nicer and better than perl.
I think C Hasse ?sp? is doing a bang up job on the informix connection piece
Thanks, and I'm glad I can't hear you try to pronounce my name

I agree that Python is better than Perl, and IMHO Python is better than
PHP, too. I wish IBM were putting as much support behind Python as they
are putting behind PHP. Well, at least they link to my SourceForge page
from the IDS page, and that's better than nothing.

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Default Re: IDS on a Mac? - 10-18-2007 , 10:22 AM



Captain Pedantic wrote:
Quote:
"Guy ." <gbowerman (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:mailman.244.1192664490.26742.informix-list (AT) iiug (DOT) org...
Anything come of this?
It was announced at IOD this week that a Mac port of IDS is in progress,
targeted for the next point release of Cheetah expected next year.

May I ask a heretical question?
Why?
It would be useful to a developer with a MacBook laptop or similar so
that he could develop away from his office. Also university students. It
would be moderately useful to me. I'm not sure how big the market is for
IDS on OSX server.

I suppose the question could be "why not?" if it's doesn't take too much
developer time to port across.

Ben.


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Default Re: IDS on a Mac? - 10-18-2007 , 11:03 AM



Ian Michael Gumby wrote:
Quote:
Unfortunately not.

Silly me, I seem to recall that Larry Ellison sits on Apples board. Or
am I dating myself? ;-)

A certain Apple exec once joked to me (again, many moons ago) that if
there were a database port to Apple, it would probably be an Oracle port
since Steve and Larry are such good friends.
Apple certified Panther, 10.3.6, for Oracle 10.1.0.3 but then failed to
follow through with Tiger ending, for the second time, their fainted
hearted move into the enterprise data center. There are rumors that the
internal battles at Apple have led them to again make the move and that
Oracle 11g will have support for the MacOS but there is nothing
official.

It would be great if Apple finally decided it wasn't just a consumer
products company because they have some of the best servers around.
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