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Default Graphic columns not allowed - 04-09-2005 , 10:44 AM






Hi,

I tried to create a table that had a column with graphic data type.
The database reported that the graphic data types were not supported on
my database. I am using the DB2 v8.1. How do I turn this feature on?

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Default Re: Graphic columns not allowed - 04-09-2005 , 01:21 PM






deebeetwo (AT) yahoo (DOT) com wrote:
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Hi,

I tried to create a table that had a column with graphic data type.
The database reported that the graphic data types were not supported on
my database. I am using the DB2 v8.1. How do I turn this feature on?

Thanks

GRAPHIC columns are only allowed for codepages which support double byte
codepoints.
That would be Unicode databases and the various asian ones.

Cheers
Serge

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IBM Toronto Lab


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Default Re: Graphic columns not allowed - 04-09-2005 , 05:24 PM



Serge Rielau wrote:
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GRAPHIC columns are only allowed for codepages which support double
byte
codepoints.
That would be Unicode databases and the various asian ones.

Cheers
Serge

I see. I was trying to map a table from SQL Server to DB2. The column
was defined as nvarchar type. Is that the correct mapping?

Thanks for the answer.



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Default Re: Graphic columns not allowed - 04-09-2005 , 06:53 PM



deebeetwo (AT) yahoo (DOT) com wrote:
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Serge Rielau wrote:

GRAPHIC columns are only allowed for codepages which support double

byte

codepoints.
That would be Unicode databases and the various asian ones.
I see. I was trying to map a table from SQL Server to DB2. The column
was defined as nvarchar type. Is that the correct mapping?
To the best of my knowlegde NVARCHAR in SQL Server is UCS-2 (double byte
Unicode). In DB2 that would match GRAPHIC in a Unicode database.
If you have a lot of NVARCHAR flying around you may want to consider
just using a unicode. Your VARCHAR columns will then be UTF-8 and
GRAPHIC UCS-2.

Cheers
Serge
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IBM Toronto Lab


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Default Re: Graphic columns not allowed - 04-09-2005 , 08:28 PM



Serge Rielau wrote:
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To the best of my knowlegde NVARCHAR in SQL Server is UCS-2 (double
byte
Unicode). In DB2 that would match GRAPHIC in a Unicode database.
If you have a lot of NVARCHAR flying around you may want to consider
just using a unicode. Your VARCHAR columns will then be UTF-8 and
GRAPHIC UCS-2.
That is interesting. So, if the database's default character set is
unicode or UTF-8, then the SQL Server NVARCHAR would just map to a
VARCHAR in DB2. (I take it the same is true for other Nxyz data types
too.) That makes sense and simplifies things a lot.

Thanks a lot!



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Default Re: Graphic columns not allowed - 04-10-2005 , 08:28 AM



deebeetwo (AT) yahoo (DOT) com wrote:
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Serge Rielau wrote:

To the best of my knowlegde NVARCHAR in SQL Server is UCS-2 (double

byte

Unicode). In DB2 that would match GRAPHIC in a Unicode database.
If you have a lot of NVARCHAR flying around you may want to consider
just using a unicode. Your VARCHAR columns will then be UTF-8 and
GRAPHIC UCS-2.


That is interesting. So, if the database's default character set is
unicode or UTF-8, then the SQL Server NVARCHAR would just map to a
VARCHAR in DB2. (I take it the same is true for other Nxyz data types
too.) That makes sense and simplifies things a lot.

Thanks a lot!

Yes and no. It is correct that UTF-8 and UCS-2 have the same expressive
power w.r.t. codepoints.
Things are getting interesting when you do do SUBSTR() or LENGTH().
In UCS-2 things are easy (I simply a tiny bit here by not considering
"combining charcters") since 2 bytes match 1 character - always. DB2
knows that and SUBSTR(graphiccol, 3, 5) will truly give you the 5
charcters starting with the third.
In UTF-8 things get messy. Both SUBSTR() and LENGTH() (as well as other
string operations) use bytes for their unit for CHAR. So SUBSTR(utf8col,
3, 5) can give anywhere from 2-5 characters.
So if you don't do much in the way of string manipulation (other then
concat which is harmless) then UTF-8 will be good (space efficient). If
you do string manipulation I recommend GRAPHIC (at the cost of space).

Hope that helps.

Cheers
Serge

PS: In a futire version of DB2 character based string manipulation will
be provided. But this is the way of the land as it is right now.

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IBM Toronto Lab


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