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Jeff Wright
 
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Default Tools Menu - Hide or Disable - 03-18-2007 , 03:40 AM






Hi

Filemaker Pro 8.5 Advanced

I've been playing with passwords and customised menus, in an attempt to
allow other members of staff at my works to test the Filemaker solution I am
building, without allowing them access to the menus or anything that allows
them to accidentally make changes to what I have so far written.

I notice that there appears to be no way to hide the Tools menu apart from
making it a permanent thing via Developer Utilities, (or I believe you can).
As what I am building is a growing thing I don't want to continually have to
delve into Developer Utilities. Is there an easier way to either disable or
preferably hide the Tools menu, when non-admin users log-in?

I've looked and looked but can't find the answer yet. Perhaps there's a
plug-in that may provide a solution.

--
Jeff Wright



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Ursus
 
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Default Re: Tools Menu - Hide or Disable - 03-18-2007 , 04:32 AM






Jeff,

I also ran across this problem. It just boils down to that advanced in
itself was not meant to be used by the end-user. It is a developers program.
You create something that you distribute to someone without FMP (as a
compiled solution) or to someone that has the normal version. (either served
or private)

I don't know of any solution..... :-(

Keep well, Ursus

"Jeff Wright" <jeff (AT) jeffwright (DOT) demon.co.uk> schreef in bericht
news:etj1ea$dca$1$830fa7a5 (AT) news (DOT) demon.co.uk...
Quote:
Hi

Filemaker Pro 8.5 Advanced

I've been playing with passwords and customised menus, in an attempt to
allow other members of staff at my works to test the Filemaker solution I
am building, without allowing them access to the menus or anything that
allows them to accidentally make changes to what I have so far written.

I notice that there appears to be no way to hide the Tools menu apart from
making it a permanent thing via Developer Utilities, (or I believe you
can). As what I am building is a growing thing I don't want to continually
have to delve into Developer Utilities. Is there an easier way to either
disable or preferably hide the Tools menu, when non-admin users log-in?

I've looked and looked but can't find the answer yet. Perhaps there's a
plug-in that may provide a solution.

--
Jeff Wright





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Jeff Wright
 
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Default Re: Tools Menu - Hide or Disable - 03-18-2007 , 09:44 AM



Thanks for your thoughts on this problem. Looks like we will just have to
live with this. Seems like a bit of a missing function to not be able to
hide this menu, when all the others can be hidden.

See Ya

Jeff

--
Jeff Wright

"Ursus" <ursus.kirk (AT) wanadoo (DOT) nl> wrote

Quote:
Jeff,

I also ran across this problem. It just boils down to that advanced in
itself was not meant to be used by the end-user. It is a developers
program. You create something that you distribute to someone without FMP
(as a compiled solution) or to someone that has the normal version.
(either served or private)

I don't know of any solution..... :-(

Keep well, Ursus

"Jeff Wright" <jeff (AT) jeffwright (DOT) demon.co.uk> schreef in bericht
news:etj1ea$dca$1$830fa7a5 (AT) news (DOT) demon.co.uk...
Hi

Filemaker Pro 8.5 Advanced

I've been playing with passwords and customised menus, in an attempt to
allow other members of staff at my works to test the Filemaker solution I
am building, without allowing them access to the menus or anything that
allows them to accidentally make changes to what I have so far written.

I notice that there appears to be no way to hide the Tools menu apart
from making it a permanent thing via Developer Utilities, (or I believe
you can). As what I am building is a growing thing I don't want to
continually have to delve into Developer Utilities. Is there an easier
way to either disable or preferably hide the Tools menu, when non-admin
users log-in?

I've looked and looked but can't find the answer yet. Perhaps there's a
plug-in that may provide a solution.

--
Jeff Wright







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AL Lawrance
 
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Default Re: Tools Menu - Hide or Disable - 03-18-2007 , 05:13 PM



In FM Pro 8.5 Advanced in Scriptmaker, under MISCEL there is a script called
"Allow Toolbar" that has on/off option.

Therefore, just have a script when the database opens that calls the "Allow
Toolbar" function set to "off". Also, have each user assigned an
Account/password that has privileges set to "Minimal".,, so they can not
access the Toolbard command on the FM Menu making it impossible for them to
turn it back on.


--
Lawrance Database Designs
A J Lawrance
British Columbia, Canada
URL: http://www.members.shaw.ca/ajlawrance/index.html






"Jeff Wright" <jeff (AT) jeffwright (DOT) demon.co.uk> wrote

Quote:
Hi

Filemaker Pro 8.5 Advanced

I've been playing with passwords and customised menus, in an attempt to
allow other members of staff at my works to test the Filemaker solution I
am building, without allowing them access to the menus or anything that
allows them to accidentally make changes to what I have so far written.

I notice that there appears to be no way to hide the Tools menu apart from
making it a permanent thing via Developer Utilities, (or I believe you
can). As what I am building is a growing thing I don't want to continually
have to delve into Developer Utilities. Is there an easier way to either
disable or preferably hide the Tools menu, when non-admin users log-in?

I've looked and looked but can't find the answer yet. Perhaps there's a
plug-in that may provide a solution.

--
Jeff Wright





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Jeff Wright
 
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Default Re: Tools Menu - Hide or Disable - 03-18-2007 , 06:21 PM



Hi Lawrance

I have tried all you mention including playing with the privilege settings.
Unfortunately whatever I try we still seem to have the Tools menu displayed
and active, when what I was hoping to do was disable or preferably hide this
menu.

Thanks for your message.
--
Jeff Wright

"AL Lawrance" <ajlawrance (AT) shaw (DOT) ca> wrote

Quote:
In FM Pro 8.5 Advanced in Scriptmaker, under MISCEL there is a script
called "Allow Toolbar" that has on/off option.

Therefore, just have a script when the database opens that calls the
"Allow Toolbar" function set to "off". Also, have each user assigned an
Account/password that has privileges set to "Minimal".,, so they can not
access the Toolbard command on the FM Menu making it impossible for them
to turn it back on.


--
Lawrance Database Designs
A J Lawrance
British Columbia, Canada
URL: http://www.members.shaw.ca/ajlawrance/index.html






"Jeff Wright" <jeff (AT) jeffwright (DOT) demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:etj1ea$dca$1$830fa7a5 (AT) news (DOT) demon.co.uk...
Hi

Filemaker Pro 8.5 Advanced

I've been playing with passwords and customised menus, in an attempt to
allow other members of staff at my works to test the Filemaker solution I
am building, without allowing them access to the menus or anything that
allows them to accidentally make changes to what I have so far written.

I notice that there appears to be no way to hide the Tools menu apart
from making it a permanent thing via Developer Utilities, (or I believe
you can). As what I am building is a growing thing I don't want to
continually have to delve into Developer Utilities. Is there an easier
way to either disable or preferably hide the Tools menu, when non-admin
users log-in?

I've looked and looked but can't find the answer yet. Perhaps there's a
plug-in that may provide a solution.

--
Jeff Wright







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AL Lawrance
 
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Default Re: Tools Menu - Hide or Disable - 03-19-2007 , 10:24 AM



I just checked a database I designed using the Toolbar "off" command from
Scriptmaker (under Miscel) ... I placed a script that executes automatically
when the database opens ... the ToolBar options are INACTIVE (ghosted) ...
so it does work ... I do not know what you are doing ... check any OPENER
scripts to make sure that the Tool Bar ia not being activated or other
scripts that are turning the Tool Bar back on!!!

Al Lawrance



"Jeff Wright" <jeff (AT) jeffwright (DOT) demon.co.uk> wrote

Quote:
Hi Lawrance

I have tried all you mention including playing with the privilege
settings. Unfortunately whatever I try we still seem to have the Tools
menu displayed and active, when what I was hoping to do was disable or
preferably hide this menu.

Thanks for your message.
--
Jeff Wright

"AL Lawrance" <ajlawrance (AT) shaw (DOT) ca> wrote in message
news:xIjLh.36427$DN.29684 (AT) pd7urf2no (DOT) ..
In FM Pro 8.5 Advanced in Scriptmaker, under MISCEL there is a script
called "Allow Toolbar" that has on/off option.

Therefore, just have a script when the database opens that calls the
"Allow Toolbar" function set to "off". Also, have each user assigned an
Account/password that has privileges set to "Minimal".,, so they can not
access the Toolbard command on the FM Menu making it impossible for them
to turn it back on.


--
Lawrance Database Designs
A J Lawrance
British Columbia, Canada
URL: http://www.members.shaw.ca/ajlawrance/index.html






"Jeff Wright" <jeff (AT) jeffwright (DOT) demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:etj1ea$dca$1$830fa7a5 (AT) news (DOT) demon.co.uk...
Hi

Filemaker Pro 8.5 Advanced

I've been playing with passwords and customised menus, in an attempt to
allow other members of staff at my works to test the Filemaker solution
I am building, without allowing them access to the menus or anything
that allows them to accidentally make changes to what I have so far
written.

I notice that there appears to be no way to hide the Tools menu apart
from making it a permanent thing via Developer Utilities, (or I believe
you can). As what I am building is a growing thing I don't want to
continually have to delve into Developer Utilities. Is there an easier
way to either disable or preferably hide the Tools menu, when non-admin
users log-in?

I've looked and looked but can't find the answer yet. Perhaps there's a
plug-in that may provide a solution.

--
Jeff Wright









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Howard Schlossberg
 
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Default Re: Tools Menu - Hide or Disable - 03-19-2007 , 10:58 AM



I think he is referring to the Tools menu that only appears when using
FM Pro Advanced. You cannot hide this menu. If you were able to, you
could too easily get yourself trapped with no way out. When you deploy
in the regular version of FM Pro, there is no tools menu, so this isn't
something you should need to worry about.


AL Lawrance wrote:
Quote:
I just checked a database I designed using the Toolbar "off" command from
Scriptmaker (under Miscel) ... I placed a script that executes automatically
when the database opens ... the ToolBar options are INACTIVE (ghosted) ...
so it does work ... I do not know what you are doing ... check any OPENER
scripts to make sure that the Tool Bar ia not being activated or other
scripts that are turning the Tool Bar back on!!!

"Jeff Wright" <jeff (AT) jeffwright (DOT) demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:etkl2b$mlq$1$830fa79f (AT) news (DOT) demon.co.uk...
Hi Lawrance

I have tried all you mention including playing with the privilege
settings. Unfortunately whatever I try we still seem to have the Tools
menu displayed and active, when what I was hoping to do was disable or
preferably hide this menu.

Thanks for your message.
--
Jeff Wright

"AL Lawrance" <ajlawrance (AT) shaw (DOT) ca> wrote in message
news:xIjLh.36427$DN.29684 (AT) pd7urf2no (DOT) ..
In FM Pro 8.5 Advanced in Scriptmaker, under MISCEL there is a script
called "Allow Toolbar" that has on/off option.

Therefore, just have a script when the database opens that calls the
"Allow Toolbar" function set to "off". Also, have each user assigned an
Account/password that has privileges set to "Minimal".,, so they can not
access the Toolbard command on the FM Menu making it impossible for them
to turn it back on.


--
Lawrance Database Designs
A J Lawrance
British Columbia, Canada
URL: http://www.members.shaw.ca/ajlawrance/index.html






"Jeff Wright" <jeff (AT) jeffwright (DOT) demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:etj1ea$dca$1$830fa7a5 (AT) news (DOT) demon.co.uk...
Hi

Filemaker Pro 8.5 Advanced

I've been playing with passwords and customised menus, in an attempt to
allow other members of staff at my works to test the Filemaker solution
I am building, without allowing them access to the menus or anything
that allows them to accidentally make changes to what I have so far
written.

I notice that there appears to be no way to hide the Tools menu apart
from making it a permanent thing via Developer Utilities, (or I believe
you can). As what I am building is a growing thing I don't want to
continually have to delve into Developer Utilities. Is there an easier
way to either disable or preferably hide the Tools menu, when non-admin
users log-in?

I've looked and looked but can't find the answer yet. Perhaps there's a
plug-in that may provide a solution.

--
Jeff Wright






--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Howard Schlossberg (818) 883-2846
FM Professional Solutions, Inc. Los Angeles

FileMaker 8 Certified Developer
Associate Member, FileMaker Solutions Alliance


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AL Lawrance
 
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Default Re: Tools Menu - Hide or Disable - 03-19-2007 , 12:29 PM




Howard,

Ok ...I misread the post... since I figured the deployed solution would be
accessed by Filemaker Pro (not advanced). .. and as you stated Howard, the
Tools (in Menu Bar) does not display for the end-user.

Later,

Al



"Howard Schlossberg" <howard (AT) antispahm (DOT) fmprosolutions.com> wrote

Quote:
I think he is referring to the Tools menu that only appears when using FM
Pro Advanced. You cannot hide this menu. If you were able to, you could
too easily get yourself trapped with no way out. When you deploy in the
regular version of FM Pro, there is no tools menu, so this isn't something
you should need to worry about.


AL Lawrance wrote:
I just checked a database I designed using the Toolbar "off" command
from Scriptmaker (under Miscel) ... I placed a script that executes
automatically when the database opens ... the ToolBar options are
INACTIVE (ghosted) ... so it does work ... I do not know what you are
doing ... check any OPENER scripts to make sure that the Tool Bar ia not
being activated or other scripts that are turning the Tool Bar back on!!!

"Jeff Wright" <jeff (AT) jeffwright (DOT) demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:etkl2b$mlq$1$830fa79f (AT) news (DOT) demon.co.uk...
Hi Lawrance

I have tried all you mention including playing with the privilege
settings. Unfortunately whatever I try we still seem to have the Tools
menu displayed and active, when what I was hoping to do was disable or
preferably hide this menu.

Thanks for your message.
--
Jeff Wright

"AL Lawrance" <ajlawrance (AT) shaw (DOT) ca> wrote in message
news:xIjLh.36427$DN.29684 (AT) pd7urf2no (DOT) ..
In FM Pro 8.5 Advanced in Scriptmaker, under MISCEL there is a script
called "Allow Toolbar" that has on/off option.

Therefore, just have a script when the database opens that calls the
"Allow Toolbar" function set to "off". Also, have each user assigned
an Account/password that has privileges set to "Minimal".,, so they
can not access the Toolbard command on the FM Menu making it impossible
for them to turn it back on.


--
Lawrance Database Designs
A J Lawrance
British Columbia, Canada
URL: http://www.members.shaw.ca/ajlawrance/index.html






"Jeff Wright" <jeff (AT) jeffwright (DOT) demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:etj1ea$dca$1$830fa7a5 (AT) news (DOT) demon.co.uk...
Hi

Filemaker Pro 8.5 Advanced

I've been playing with passwords and customised menus, in an attempt
to allow other members of staff at my works to test the Filemaker
solution I am building, without allowing them access to the menus or
anything that allows them to accidentally make changes to what I have
so far written.

I notice that there appears to be no way to hide the Tools menu apart
from making it a permanent thing via Developer Utilities, (or I
believe you can). As what I am building is a growing thing I don't
want to continually have to delve into Developer Utilities. Is there
an easier way to either disable or preferably hide the Tools menu,
when non-admin users log-in?

I've looked and looked but can't find the answer yet. Perhaps there's
a plug-in that may provide a solution.

--
Jeff Wright







--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Howard Schlossberg (818) 883-2846
FM Professional Solutions, Inc. Los Angeles

FileMaker 8 Certified Developer
Associate Member, FileMaker Solutions Alliance



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Jeff Wright
 
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Default Re: Tools Menu - Hide or Disable - 03-19-2007 , 02:16 PM



Thanks Al and Howard for your comments.

Yes its FM Pro 8.50 Adv, and I think we can now confirm that it is
impossible to hide the Tools menu from the menu bar!

Not to worry. At least we can hide all the other developer menus from an end
user.

Many thanks,

--
Jeff Wright

"AL Lawrance" <ajlawrance (AT) shaw (DOT) ca> wrote

Quote:
Howard,

Ok ...I misread the post... since I figured the deployed solution would be
accessed by Filemaker Pro (not advanced). .. and as you stated Howard, the
Tools (in Menu Bar) does not display for the end-user.

Later,

Al



"Howard Schlossberg" <howard (AT) antispahm (DOT) fmprosolutions.com> wrote in
message news:12vtg94tjdbth61 (AT) corp (DOT) supernews.com...
I think he is referring to the Tools menu that only appears when using FM
Pro Advanced. You cannot hide this menu. If you were able to, you could
too easily get yourself trapped with no way out. When you deploy in the
regular version of FM Pro, there is no tools menu, so this isn't something
you should need to worry about.


AL Lawrance wrote:
I just checked a database I designed using the Toolbar "off" command
from Scriptmaker (under Miscel) ... I placed a script that executes
automatically when the database opens ... the ToolBar options are
INACTIVE (ghosted) ... so it does work ... I do not know what you are
doing ... check any OPENER scripts to make sure that the Tool Bar ia not
being activated or other scripts that are turning the Tool Bar back
on!!!

"Jeff Wright" <jeff (AT) jeffwright (DOT) demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:etkl2b$mlq$1$830fa79f (AT) news (DOT) demon.co.uk...
Hi Lawrance

I have tried all you mention including playing with the privilege
settings. Unfortunately whatever I try we still seem to have the Tools
menu displayed and active, when what I was hoping to do was disable or
preferably hide this menu.

Thanks for your message.
--
Jeff Wright

"AL Lawrance" <ajlawrance (AT) shaw (DOT) ca> wrote in message
news:xIjLh.36427$DN.29684 (AT) pd7urf2no (DOT) ..
In FM Pro 8.5 Advanced in Scriptmaker, under MISCEL there is a script
called "Allow Toolbar" that has on/off option.

Therefore, just have a script when the database opens that calls the
"Allow Toolbar" function set to "off". Also, have each user assigned
an Account/password that has privileges set to "Minimal".,, so they
can not access the Toolbard command on the FM Menu making it
impossible for them to turn it back on.


--
Lawrance Database Designs
A J Lawrance
British Columbia, Canada
URL: http://www.members.shaw.ca/ajlawrance/index.html






"Jeff Wright" <jeff (AT) jeffwright (DOT) demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:etj1ea$dca$1$830fa7a5 (AT) news (DOT) demon.co.uk...
Hi

Filemaker Pro 8.5 Advanced

I've been playing with passwords and customised menus, in an attempt
to allow other members of staff at my works to test the Filemaker
solution I am building, without allowing them access to the menus or
anything that allows them to accidentally make changes to what I have
so far written.

I notice that there appears to be no way to hide the Tools menu apart
from making it a permanent thing via Developer Utilities, (or I
believe you can). As what I am building is a growing thing I don't
want to continually have to delve into Developer Utilities. Is there
an easier way to either disable or preferably hide the Tools menu,
when non-admin users log-in?

I've looked and looked but can't find the answer yet. Perhaps there's
a plug-in that may provide a solution.

--
Jeff Wright







--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Howard Schlossberg (818) 883-2846
FM Professional Solutions, Inc. Los Angeles

FileMaker 8 Certified Developer
Associate Member, FileMaker Solutions Alliance





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Grip
 
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Default Re: Tools Menu - Hide or Disable - 03-19-2007 , 04:34 PM



I don't think you can hide all the developer menus. I don't believe
there's a way to hide the Tools menu which provides access to the
Script Debugger and the Data Viewer, among other tools.

G

On Mar 19, 2:16 pm, "Jeff Wright" <j... (AT) jeffwright (DOT) demon.co.uk> wrote:
Quote:
Thanks Al and Howard for your comments.

Yes its FM Pro 8.50 Adv, and I think we can now confirm that it is
impossible to hide the Tools menu from the menu bar!

Not to worry. At least we can hide all the other developer menus from an end
user.

Many thanks,

--
Jeff Wright

"AL Lawrance" <ajlawra... (AT) shaw (DOT) ca> wrote in message

news:kEALh.37572$DN.17224 (AT) pd7urf2no (DOT) ..



Howard,

Ok ...I misread the post... since I figured the deployed solution would be
accessed by Filemaker Pro (not advanced). .. and as you stated Howard, the
Tools (in Menu Bar) does not display for the end-user.

Later,

Al

"Howard Schlossberg" <how... (AT) antispahm (DOT) fmprosolutions.com> wrote in
messagenews:12vtg94tjdbth61 (AT) corp (DOT) supernews.com...
I think he is referring to the Tools menu that only appears when using FM
Pro Advanced. You cannot hide this menu. If you were able to, you could
too easily get yourself trapped with no way out. When you deploy in the
regular version of FM Pro, there is no tools menu, so this isn't something
you should need to worry about.

AL Lawrance wrote:
I just checked a database I designed using the Toolbar "off" command
from Scriptmaker (under Miscel) ... I placed a script that executes
automatically when the database opens ... the ToolBar options are
INACTIVE (ghosted) ... so it does work ... I do not know what you are
doing ... check any OPENER scripts to make sure that the Tool Bar ia not
being activated or other scripts that are turning the Tool Bar back
on!!!

"Jeff Wright" <j... (AT) jeffwright (DOT) demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:etkl2b$mlq$1$830fa79f (AT) news (DOT) demon.co.uk...
Hi Lawrance

I have tried all you mention including playing with the privilege
settings. Unfortunately whatever I try we still seem to have the Tools
menu displayed and active, when what I was hoping to do was disable or
preferably hide this menu.

Thanks for your message.
--
Jeff Wright

"AL Lawrance" <ajlawra... (AT) shaw (DOT) ca> wrote in message
news:xIjLh.36427$DN.29684 (AT) pd7urf2no (DOT) ..
In FM Pro 8.5 Advanced in Scriptmaker, under MISCEL there is a script
called "Allow Toolbar" that has on/off option.

Therefore, just have a script when the database opens that calls the
"Allow Toolbar" function set to "off". Also, have each user assigned
an Account/password that has privileges set to "Minimal".,, so they
can not access the Toolbard command on the FM Menu making it
impossible for them to turn it back on.

--
Lawrance Database Designs
A J Lawrance
British Columbia, Canada
URL:http://www.members.shaw.ca/ajlawrance/index.html

"Jeff Wright" <j... (AT) jeffwright (DOT) demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:etj1ea$dca$1$830fa7a5 (AT) news (DOT) demon.co.uk...
Hi

Filemaker Pro 8.5 Advanced

I've been playing with passwords and customised menus, in an attempt
to allow other members of staff at my works to test the Filemaker
solution I am building, without allowing them access to the menus or
anything that allows them to accidentally make changes to what I have
so far written.

I notice that there appears to be no way to hide the Tools menu apart
from making it a permanent thing via Developer Utilities, (or I
believe you can). As what I am building is a growing thing I don't
want to continually have to delve into Developer Utilities. Is there
an easier way to either disable or preferably hide the Tools menu,
when non-admin users log-in?

I've looked and looked but can't find the answer yet. Perhaps there's
a plug-in that may provide a solution.

--
Jeff Wright

--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Howard Schlossberg (818) 883-2846
FM Professional Solutions, Inc. Los Angeles

FileMaker 8 Certified Developer
Associate Member, FileMaker Solutions Alliance



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