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Default tif images dont displayed at web - 08-12-2011 , 11:58 PM






I have FileMaker Pro 11.
I open with Instant Web Publishing the database at the browser
but the container tif images dont displayed !

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Default Re: tif images dont displayed at web - 08-13-2011 , 01:39 AM






In article <K_adnTZ7qYQSmdvTnZ2dnUVZ8h-dnZ2d (AT) giganews (DOT) com>, "giannis"
<zzzinobios (AT) freemail (DOT) gr> wrote:

Quote:
I have FileMaker Pro 11.
I open with Instant Web Publishing the database at the browser
but the container tif images dont displayed !
I'm not sure about FileMaker's Web Publishing in particular, but TIFF
isn't a standard web format. To display an image in a web browser, images
need to be GIF or JPEG format (or PNG, but that's rather a silly format
for older computers / dial-up connections). Try changing the images to see
if that helps.

Helpful Harry )

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Default Re: tif images dont displayed at web - 08-13-2011 , 01:56 AM



I have 200,000 tif images and i dont want to change
because :

1 tiff (200x200 dpi, 1500x1300) = 10 kb
1 gif ( >> , >> ) = 20 kb
1 jpg ( >> , >> ) = 200 kb


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I'm not sure about FileMaker's Web Publishing in particular, but TIFF
isn't a standard web format. To display an image in a web browser, images
need to be GIF or JPEG format (or PNG, but that's rather a silly format
for older computers / dial-up connections). Try changing the images to see
if that helps.

Helpful Harry )

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Default Re: tif images dont displayed at web - 08-13-2011 , 08:50 AM



Your Name <yourname (AT) yourisp (DOT) com> wrote:

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In article <K_adnTZ7qYQSmdvTnZ2dnUVZ8h-dnZ2d (AT) giganews (DOT) com>, "giannis"
zzzinobios (AT) freemail (DOT) gr> wrote:

I have FileMaker Pro 11.
I open with Instant Web Publishing the database at the browser
but the container tif images dont displayed !

I'm not sure about FileMaker's Web Publishing in particular, but TIFF
isn't a standard web format. To display an image in a web browser, images
need to be GIF or JPEG format (or PNG, but that's rather a silly format
for older computers / dial-up connections).
That's a rather odd comment about PNG. GIF was introduced in 1987, while
PNG was in 1996. Perhaps you are confusing PNG with something else?

PNG was implemented as a non-patented replacement for GIF, when Unisys
were being unreasonable about the patent they owned on LZW compression
(which is used by GIF). Less of an issue now that patent has expired.

PNG is technically superior to GIF, e.g. it supports more than 256
colours per image, while retaining GIF's property of lossless
compression. (PNG doesn't do animated images, however.)

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dempson (AT) actrix (DOT) gen.nz

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Default Re: tif images dont displayed at web - 08-13-2011 , 04:43 PM



In article <1k5yurf.z6zurg12r1palN%dempson (AT) actrix (DOT) gen.nz>,
dempson (AT) actrix (DOT) gen.nz (David Empson) wrote:

Quote:
Your Name <yourname (AT) yourisp (DOT) com> wrote:

In article <K_adnTZ7qYQSmdvTnZ2dnUVZ8h-dnZ2d (AT) giganews (DOT) com>, "giannis"
zzzinobios (AT) freemail (DOT) gr> wrote:

I have FileMaker Pro 11.
I open with Instant Web Publishing the database at the browser
but the container tif images dont displayed !

I'm not sure about FileMaker's Web Publishing in particular, but TIFF
isn't a standard web format. To display an image in a web browser, images
need to be GIF or JPEG format (or PNG, but that's rather a silly format
for older computers / dial-up connections).

That's a rather odd comment about PNG. GIF was introduced in 1987, while
PNG was in 1996. Perhaps you are confusing PNG with something else?

PNG was implemented as a non-patented replacement for GIF, when Unisys
were being unreasonable about the patent they owned on LZW compression
(which is used by GIF). Less of an issue now that patent has expired.

PNG is technically superior to GIF, e.g. it supports more than 256
colours per image, while retaining GIF's property of lossless
compression. (PNG doesn't do animated images, however.)
Nope, no confusing. The PNG format may well be "superior" to GIF in some
ways, but unfortunately it tends to produce bigger files sizes that are
slower to download and display. The standard GIF and JPEG are much better
on older computers / web browsers and those using dial-up connections
(like me).

Helpful Harry )

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Default Re: tif images dont displayed at web - 08-13-2011 , 04:57 PM



In article <GuOdnbuntLrMvdvTnZ2dnUVZ7tCdnZ2d (AT) giganews (DOT) com>, "giannis"
<zzzinobios (AT) freemail (DOT) gr> wrote:
Quote:
I'm not sure about FileMaker's Web Publishing in particular, but TIFF
isn't a standard web format. To display an image in a web browser, images
need to be GIF or JPEG format (or PNG, but that's rather a silly format
for older computers / dial-up connections). Try changing the images to see
if that helps.

I have 200,000 tif images and i dont want to change
because :

1 tiff (200x200 dpi, 1500x1300) = 10 kb
1 gif ( >> , >> ) = 20 kb
1 jpg ( >> , >> ) = 200 kb
It's possible, but unlikely that a TIFF image file would be so much
smaller than a GIF / JPEG - about the only way that could happen with
images of that size and resolution is if the TIFF files were pure black &
white images (not greyscale) and using LZW compression.

BUT, the fact remains that TIFF is not a standard web format and simply
isn't recognised by most web browsers. Trying converting a couple of
images and you'll probably find those ones will then work properly. (If
they are black & white images, then GIF is probably the best option.)

To convert all the images, use something that does batch conversions of
multiple images at once (remembering to keep the original TIFFs stored
elsewhere for you own non-web use) - on the Mac, Graphic Converter is a
good reasonably cheap choice or you can create an AppleScript / Automator
app to process a folder of images. Windows will have something similar.

Helpful Harry )

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Default Re: tif images dont displayed at web - 08-13-2011 , 06:44 PM



In article <GuOdnbuntLrMvdvTnZ2dnUVZ7tCdnZ2d (AT) giganews (DOT) com>, "giannis"
<zzzinobios (AT) freemail (DOT) gr> wrote:
Quote:
I'm not sure about FileMaker's Web Publishing in particular, but TIFF
isn't a standard web format. To display an image in a web browser, images
need to be GIF or JPEG format (or PNG, but that's rather a silly format
for older computers / dial-up connections). Try changing the images to see
if that helps.

I have 200,000 tif images and i dont want to change
because :

1 tiff (200x200 dpi, 1500x1300) = 10 kb
1 gif ( >> , >> ) = 20 kb
1 jpg ( >> , >> ) = 200 kb
I forgot to say that there is a "store compatible graphics" option in
FileMaker's preferences (at least in some versions), but I'm not sure if
that affects the web publishing or not ... could be worth a try, although
I think that's for Mac <-> Windows compatibility rather than Internet.

Helpful Harry )

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Default Re: tif images dont displayed at web - 08-13-2011 , 07:04 PM



Your Name <yourname (AT) yourisp (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:
In article <1k5yurf.z6zurg12r1palN%dempson (AT) actrix (DOT) gen.nz>,
dempson (AT) actrix (DOT) gen.nz (David Empson) wrote:

Your Name <yourname (AT) yourisp (DOT) com> wrote:

In article <K_adnTZ7qYQSmdvTnZ2dnUVZ8h-dnZ2d (AT) giganews (DOT) com>, "giannis"
zzzinobios (AT) freemail (DOT) gr> wrote:

I have FileMaker Pro 11.
I open with Instant Web Publishing the database at the browser
but the container tif images dont displayed !

I'm not sure about FileMaker's Web Publishing in particular, but TIFF
isn't a standard web format. To display an image in a web browser, images
need to be GIF or JPEG format (or PNG, but that's rather a silly format
for older computers / dial-up connections).

That's a rather odd comment about PNG. GIF was introduced in 1987, while
PNG was in 1996. Perhaps you are confusing PNG with something else?

PNG was implemented as a non-patented replacement for GIF, when Unisys
were being unreasonable about the patent they owned on LZW compression
(which is used by GIF). Less of an issue now that patent has expired.

PNG is technically superior to GIF, e.g. it supports more than 256
colours per image, while retaining GIF's property of lossless
compression. (PNG doesn't do animated images, however.)

Nope, no confusing. The PNG format may well be "superior" to GIF in some
ways, but unfortunately it tends to produce bigger files sizes that are
slower to download and display. The standard GIF and JPEG are much better
on older computers / web browsers and those using dial-up connections
(like me).
Ah - I read your comment as saying that PNG was a rather silly format
(in general), and was intended for old older computers and dialup
connections, hence my confusion. If the line break had been anywhere
else I might have interpreted it as you intended. :-)

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David Empson
dempson (AT) actrix (DOT) gen.nz

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