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Colin Croft
 
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Default Table view w. no buttons? - 01-07-2007 , 12:53 AM






One of my layouts is a table view but there seems to be no way to put a
button on it to allow the user to exit back to the main menu layout. No
matter where I place the button (header, body, footer) it just vanishes
when I go back to browse mode.

Is this just a limitation of the table view? I'm trying to avoid the
user having to use the menus because it's supposed to be used by people
who've never seen FM.

PS. If it's relevent, I'm using FM 6.


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Remi-Noel Menegaux
 
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Default Re: Table view w. no buttons? - 01-07-2007 , 01:39 AM






Yes, you are right. That's one of the reasons I never use that 'type' of
layout. A search in the FMP6 help on 'layouts' then under 'layouts,creating'
see 'types of' : it explains what the 'Table view' is all about - ie to
mimic a speadsheet -. I personally always use the 'form' or the 'list' types
of layout. The 'list' one is very similar to the 'table' one but it allows
to show buttons.
Maybe Harry will give more insight to that 'table' notion.
If you want to get rid of the top Menu line there are plugins out there like
'SecureFM' www.securefm.com or a 'Dacons' one - I guess it is the
http://www.dacons.net/fmplugins/menucontrol/ -. But, be careful, if you do
that you'll have to reproduce yourself by script every function provided by
the main Menu.
Remi-Noel


"Colin Croft" <ccroft (AT) iinet (DOT) net.au> a écrit dans le message de news:
45a09941$0$22070$5a62ac22 (AT) per-qv1-newsreader-01 (DOT) iinet.net.au...
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One of my layouts is a table view but there seems to be no way to put a
button on it to allow the user to exit back to the main menu layout. No
matter where I place the button (header, body, footer) it just vanishes
when I go back to browse mode.

Is this just a limitation of the table view? I'm trying to avoid the user
having to use the menus because it's supposed to be used by people who've
never seen FM.

PS. If it's relevent, I'm using FM 6.




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Colin Croft
 
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Default Re: Table view w. no buttons? - 01-07-2007 , 04:28 AM



Thanks. Mildly disappointing but not unexpected.


Remi-Noel Menegaux wrote:
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Yes, you are right. That's one of the reasons I never use that 'type' of
layout. A search in the FMP6 help on 'layouts' then under 'layouts,creating'
see 'types of' : it explains what the 'Table view' is all about - ie to
mimic a speadsheet -. I personally always use the 'form' or the 'list' types
of layout. The 'list' one is very similar to the 'table' one but it allows
to show buttons.
Maybe Harry will give more insight to that 'table' notion.
If you want to get rid of the top Menu line there are plugins out there like
'SecureFM' www.securefm.com or a 'Dacons' one - I guess it is the
http://www.dacons.net/fmplugins/menucontrol/ -. But, be careful, if you do
that you'll have to reproduce yourself by script every function provided by
the main Menu.
Remi-Noel


"Colin Croft" <ccroft (AT) iinet (DOT) net.au> a écrit dans le message de news:
45a09941$0$22070$5a62ac22 (AT) per-qv1-newsreader-01 (DOT) iinet.net.au...

One of my layouts is a table view but there seems to be no way to put a
button on it to allow the user to exit back to the main menu layout. No
matter where I place the button (header, body, footer) it just vanishes
when I go back to browse mode.

Is this just a limitation of the table view? I'm trying to avoid the user
having to use the menus because it's supposed to be used by people who've
never seen FM.

PS. If it's relevent, I'm using FM 6.





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Ursus
 
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Default Re: Table view w. no buttons? - 01-07-2007 , 05:02 AM



Remi and Colin,

you actualy CAN create buttons in a table view. I translated my own copy
into english, so the actual words might be slightly different, but it is
there!

Goto your layout, go into designmode (layout mode)
goto menu > layouts > layoutsettings
Active the second tab of the option window (rendering/reproduction or
something similar)
Next to the checkmark 'tableview' you find a button (details or something
like that) click it
You see three main parts, choose the second part (header and parts)
Activate the first checkbox. (Include header)
ok, ok

Now you can put a button in the header and it wil be visible all the time

Ursus

"Remi-Noel Menegaux" <rnmenegaux_AT_free.fr> schreef in bericht
news:45a0a3a2$0$301$426a74cc (AT) news (DOT) free.fr...
Quote:
Yes, you are right. That's one of the reasons I never use that 'type' of
layout. A search in the FMP6 help on 'layouts' then under
'layouts,creating' see 'types of' : it explains what the 'Table view' is
all about - ie to mimic a speadsheet -. I personally always use the 'form'
or the 'list' types of layout. The 'list' one is very similar to the
'table' one but it allows to show buttons.
Maybe Harry will give more insight to that 'table' notion.
If you want to get rid of the top Menu line there are plugins out there
like 'SecureFM' www.securefm.com or a 'Dacons' one - I guess it is the
http://www.dacons.net/fmplugins/menucontrol/ -. But, be careful, if you do
that you'll have to reproduce yourself by script every function provided
by the main Menu.
Remi-Noel


"Colin Croft" <ccroft (AT) iinet (DOT) net.au> a écrit dans le message de news:
45a09941$0$22070$5a62ac22 (AT) per-qv1-newsreader-01 (DOT) iinet.net.au...
One of my layouts is a table view but there seems to be no way to put a
button on it to allow the user to exit back to the main menu layout. No
matter where I place the button (header, body, footer) it just vanishes
when I go back to browse mode.

Is this just a limitation of the table view? I'm trying to avoid the user
having to use the menus because it's supposed to be used by people who've
never seen FM.

PS. If it's relevent, I'm using FM 6.






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Remi-Noel Menegaux
 
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Default Re: Table view w. no buttons? - 01-07-2007 , 07:08 AM



Yes, Ursus, you are right. When in a table view you add the header part you
can put in it a button that works - I made a try -. So the only thing which
is missing is the possibility of having a button on the body part ie on each
line for example to select that record, while it is possible in the List
View.
Sorry for my mistake, though.
Remi-Noel

"Ursus" <ursus.kirk (AT) wanadoo (DOT) nl> a écrit dans le message de news:
45a0d327$0$24647$dbd4d001 (AT) news (DOT) wanadoo.nl...
Quote:
Remi and Colin,

you actualy CAN create buttons in a table view. I translated my own copy
into english, so the actual words might be slightly different, but it is
there!

Goto your layout, go into designmode (layout mode)
goto menu > layouts > layoutsettings
Active the second tab of the option window (rendering/reproduction or
something similar)
Next to the checkmark 'tableview' you find a button (details or something
like that) click it
You see three main parts, choose the second part (header and parts)
Activate the first checkbox. (Include header)
ok, ok

Now you can put a button in the header and it wil be visible all the time

Ursus

"Remi-Noel Menegaux" <rnmenegaux_AT_free.fr> schreef in bericht
news:45a0a3a2$0$301$426a74cc (AT) news (DOT) free.fr...
Yes, you are right. That's one of the reasons I never use that 'type' of
layout. A search in the FMP6 help on 'layouts' then under
'layouts,creating' see 'types of' : it explains what the 'Table view' is
all about - ie to mimic a speadsheet -. I personally always use the
'form' or the 'list' types of layout. The 'list' one is very similar to
the 'table' one but it allows to show buttons.
Maybe Harry will give more insight to that 'table' notion.
If you want to get rid of the top Menu line there are plugins out there
like 'SecureFM' www.securefm.com or a 'Dacons' one - I guess it is the
http://www.dacons.net/fmplugins/menucontrol/ -. But, be careful, if you
do that you'll have to reproduce yourself by script every function
provided by the main Menu.
Remi-Noel


"Colin Croft" <ccroft (AT) iinet (DOT) net.au> a écrit dans le message de news:
45a09941$0$22070$5a62ac22 (AT) per-qv1-newsreader-01 (DOT) iinet.net.au...
One of my layouts is a table view but there seems to be no way to put a
button on it to allow the user to exit back to the main menu layout. No
matter where I place the button (header, body, footer) it just vanishes
when I go back to browse mode.

Is this just a limitation of the table view? I'm trying to avoid the
user having to use the menus because it's supposed to be used by people
who've never seen FM.

PS. If it's relevent, I'm using FM 6.








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Colin Croft
 
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Default Re: Table view w. no buttons? - 01-07-2007 , 09:29 AM



Brilliant! Thanks.

Ursus wrote:
Quote:
Remi and Colin,

you actualy CAN create buttons in a table view. I translated my own copy
into english, so the actual words might be slightly different, but it is
there!

Goto your layout, go into designmode (layout mode)
goto menu > layouts > layoutsettings
Active the second tab of the option window (rendering/reproduction or
something similar)
Next to the checkmark 'tableview' you find a button (details or something
like that) click it
You see three main parts, choose the second part (header and parts)
Activate the first checkbox. (Include header)
ok, ok

Now you can put a button in the header and it wil be visible all the time

Ursus

"Remi-Noel Menegaux" <rnmenegaux_AT_free.fr> schreef in bericht
news:45a0a3a2$0$301$426a74cc (AT) news (DOT) free.fr...

Yes, you are right. That's one of the reasons I never use that 'type' of
layout. A search in the FMP6 help on 'layouts' then under
'layouts,creating' see 'types of' : it explains what the 'Table view' is
all about - ie to mimic a speadsheet -. I personally always use the 'form'
or the 'list' types of layout. The 'list' one is very similar to the
'table' one but it allows to show buttons.
Maybe Harry will give more insight to that 'table' notion.
If you want to get rid of the top Menu line there are plugins out there
like 'SecureFM' www.securefm.com or a 'Dacons' one - I guess it is the
http://www.dacons.net/fmplugins/menucontrol/ -. But, be careful, if you do
that you'll have to reproduce yourself by script every function provided
by the main Menu.
Remi-Noel


"Colin Croft" <ccroft (AT) iinet (DOT) net.au> a écrit dans le message de news:
45a09941$0$22070$5a62ac22 (AT) per-qv1-newsreader-01 (DOT) iinet.net.au...

One of my layouts is a table view but there seems to be no way to put a
button on it to allow the user to exit back to the main menu layout. No
matter where I place the button (header, body, footer) it just vanishes
when I go back to browse mode.

Is this just a limitation of the table view? I'm trying to avoid the user
having to use the menus because it's supposed to be used by people who've
never seen FM.

PS. If it's relevent, I'm using FM 6.






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