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Default Starting a file but not in 'build' mode - 11-30-2006 , 03:28 PM






Hi...

Newbie question;

I have a complete application developed, but I want to deploy it
without the toolbar, status bar, etc.
I just want it to show all the layouts I created.

How do I go about it or where is it in the docs?

TIA,
Joe


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Matt Wills
 
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Default Re: Starting a file but not in 'build' mode - 11-30-2006 , 04:07 PM






Script step Allow Toolbars

Script step Show/Hide Status Area

Matt

On 11/30/2006 16:28:07 "JoeT" <trubisz (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:
Hi...

Newbie question;

I have a complete application developed, but I want to deploy it without
the toolbar, status bar, etc. I just want it to show all the layouts I
created.

How do I go about it or where is it in the docs?

TIA, Joe

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Helpful Harry
 
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Default Re: Starting a file but not in 'build' mode - 11-30-2006 , 05:26 PM



In article <1130177.QSLGSKXJ (AT) news (DOT) verizon.net>, Matt Wills
<Im (AT) witz (DOT) end> wrote:

Quote:
On 11/30/2006 16:28:07 "JoeT" <trubisz (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

Hi...

Newbie question;

I have a complete application developed, but I want to deploy it without
the toolbar, status bar, etc. I just want it to show all the layouts I
created.

How do I go about it or where is it in the docs?

TIA, Joe

Script step Allow Toolbars

Script step Show/Hide Status Area
One thing to note, changing the displaying of the Toolbar can cause
strange problems with the window size ... although it might only be a
bug in older versions of FileMaker on the Mac. The top of the window
moves to accommodate the toolbar's appearance / disappearance, but it's
height doesn't. \

It's not really a problem for your files since you can reset the window
size manually before distributing the files, but it might cause some
minor annoyances for other database files the people are using.

Helpful Harry
Hopefully helping harassed humans happily handle handiwork hardships ;o)


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John Weinshel
 
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Default Re: Starting a file but not in 'build' mode - 11-30-2006 , 07:47 PM



It might be that you're talking about a kiosk version, where all the
external stuff, both the OS and Filemaker objects, are removed from the
screen-- something like you might see at, say, a trade show, or at a store
demo (hence, 'kiosk'). If that is the case, it can only be created using
Filemaker Pro Advanced (or 'Developer' in earlier releases).

But you're probably just talking about controlling the status area, which
you can do with the 'Show/Hide Status Area' script step, and the toolbars,
which can be controlled with the 'Allow Toolbars' script step.

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Datagrace
Vashon Island, WA
(206) 463-1634
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Certified For Filemaker 7


"JoeT" <trubisz (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
Hi...

Newbie question;

I have a complete application developed, but I want to deploy it
without the toolbar, status bar, etc.
I just want it to show all the layouts I created.

How do I go about it or where is it in the docs?

TIA,
Joe




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Remi-Noel Menegaux
 
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Default Re: Starting a file but not in 'build' mode - 12-01-2006 , 12:44 AM



I use also sometimes the 'SecureFM' plugin - www.securefm.com - in
particular when I want that some regular workstations on the network be used
as 'kiosks' ie for consulting only part of the live DB - I can't use
'binded' solutions on a network -. When put on far-away locations of a store
or a public space (a museum for instance) you really need to make those
special W/S 'fool proof'. Then 'SecureFM' is really very helpful as it
disables almost everything. I must admit that I add to that a keyboard on
which I break some of the keys (by removing the cap, taking off the pastic
spring and putting back the cap) in order to disable also some OS keys
functions ( like 'Esc', Ctrl', Alt', 'Del') and I put the PC itself in a
closed box for avoiding it to be manipulated or even stolen. It works, while
maybe not elegant for the keyboard aspect (there should be better ways...) !
Remi-Noel

"JoeT" <trubisz (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> a écrit dans le message de news:
1164922087.598009.112690 (AT) j72g20...oglegroups.com...
Quote:
Hi...

Newbie question;

I have a complete application developed, but I want to deploy it
without the toolbar, status bar, etc.
I just want it to show all the layouts I created.

How do I go about it or where is it in the docs?

TIA,
Joe




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JoeT
 
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Default Re: Starting a file but not in 'build' mode - 12-03-2006 , 01:04 PM



OK...figured this out *almost*
Is there a way to execute a script immediately upon starting a
database?
These commands work fine, but I want them to be executed before the
initial window is displayed.
Is there a way to kick off a script first, before the window is
actually displayed?

joe


Matt Wills wrote:
Quote:
Script step Allow Toolbars

Script step Show/Hide Status Area

Matt

On 11/30/2006 16:28:07 "JoeT" <trubisz (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

Hi...

Newbie question;

I have a complete application developed, but I want to deploy it without
the toolbar, status bar, etc. I just want it to show all the layouts I
created.

How do I go about it or where is it in the docs?

TIA, Joe


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Howard Schlossberg
 
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Default Re: Starting a file but not in 'build' mode - 12-03-2006 , 01:35 PM



(FM7/8): File > File Options > Perform Script
(FM5/6): Edit > Preferences > File Preferences > Perform Script

JoeT wrote:
Quote:
OK...figured this out *almost*
Is there a way to execute a script immediately upon starting a
database?
These commands work fine, but I want them to be executed before the
initial window is displayed.
Is there a way to kick off a script first, before the window is
actually displayed?

joe


Matt Wills wrote:
Script step Allow Toolbars

Script step Show/Hide Status Area

Matt

On 11/30/2006 16:28:07 "JoeT" <trubisz (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

Hi...
Newbie question;
I have a complete application developed, but I want to deploy it without
the toolbar, status bar, etc. I just want it to show all the layouts I
created.
How do I go about it or where is it in the docs?
TIA, Joe

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Howard Schlossberg (818) 883-2846
FM Professional Solutions, Inc. Los Angeles

FileMaker 8 Certified Developer
Associate Member, FileMaker Solutions Alliance


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JoeT
 
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Default Re: Starting a file but not in 'build' mode - 12-03-2006 , 03:52 PM



OK...I obviously didn't explain this right, so I'll try again.

First off, kiosk mode will do what I want, so it's my default solution
(I'm running 8.5 Pro Adv).

However...just for personal satisfaction, on other systems, I can do
something like:

/usr/bin/runApp -f something.script

where something.script is the first thing that runApp will execute.

Perform script works just fine, IF I'm already in the app. But, what
would be ideal is if I can have the following happen when I start the
particular .fm file:

Script hide toolbars
Show/Hide status area
Perform Layout[layout]

Yeah, I know the kiosk will work, but I'm just interested in knowing if
you can do this outside of kiosk. Namely, can the first thing I do is
to run a script?

TIA,
Joe


Howard Schlossberg wrote:
Quote:
(FM7/8): File > File Options > Perform Script
(FM5/6): Edit > Preferences > File Preferences > Perform Script

JoeT wrote:
OK...figured this out *almost*
Is there a way to execute a script immediately upon starting a
database?
These commands work fine, but I want them to be executed before the
initial window is displayed.
Is there a way to kick off a script first, before the window is
actually displayed?

joe


Matt Wills wrote:
Script step Allow Toolbars

Script step Show/Hide Status Area

Matt

On 11/30/2006 16:28:07 "JoeT" <trubisz (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

Hi...
Newbie question;
I have a complete application developed, but I want to deploy it without
the toolbar, status bar, etc. I just want it to show all the layouts I
created.
How do I go about it or where is it in the docs?
TIA, Joe


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Howard Schlossberg (818) 883-2846
FM Professional Solutions, Inc. Los Angeles

FileMaker 8 Certified Developer
Associate Member, FileMaker Solutions Alliance


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Remi-Noel Menegaux
 
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Default Re: Starting a file but not in 'build' mode - 12-03-2006 , 04:16 PM



Joe,
Howard told you :
Quote:
(FM7/8): File > File Options > Perform Script
(FM5/6): Edit > Preferences > File Preferences > Perform Script
It means that the chosen script will be trigged automatically when you open
the FM file.
Then in that opening script you put what you want as it runs before anything
else.
I would, though, add that you could also have a look at the 'SecureFM'
plugin at www.securefm.com that does a lot of things. It could be helpful in
a networked solution, as some of the workstations may be set differently
from others , e.g. as 'kiosk' terminals.
Remi-Noel

"JoeT" <trubisz (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> a écrit dans le message de news:
1165182766.589726.81530 (AT) f1g2000...oglegroups.com...
Quote:
OK...I obviously didn't explain this right, so I'll try again.

First off, kiosk mode will do what I want, so it's my default solution
(I'm running 8.5 Pro Adv).

However...just for personal satisfaction, on other systems, I can do
something like:

/usr/bin/runApp -f something.script

where something.script is the first thing that runApp will execute.

Perform script works just fine, IF I'm already in the app. But, what
would be ideal is if I can have the following happen when I start the
particular .fm file:

Script hide toolbars
Show/Hide status area
Perform Layout[layout]

Yeah, I know the kiosk will work, but I'm just interested in knowing if
you can do this outside of kiosk. Namely, can the first thing I do is
to run a script?

TIA,
Joe


Howard Schlossberg wrote:
(FM7/8): File > File Options > Perform Script
(FM5/6): Edit > Preferences > File Preferences > Perform Script

JoeT wrote:
OK...figured this out *almost*
Is there a way to execute a script immediately upon starting a
database?
These commands work fine, but I want them to be executed before the
initial window is displayed.
Is there a way to kick off a script first, before the window is
actually displayed?

joe


Matt Wills wrote:
Script step Allow Toolbars

Script step Show/Hide Status Area

Matt

On 11/30/2006 16:28:07 "JoeT" <trubisz (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

Hi...
Newbie question;
I have a complete application developed, but I want to deploy it
without
the toolbar, status bar, etc. I just want it to show all the layouts
I
created.
How do I go about it or where is it in the docs?
TIA, Joe


--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Howard Schlossberg (818) 883-2846
FM Professional Solutions, Inc. Los Angeles

FileMaker 8 Certified Developer
Associate Member, FileMaker Solutions Alliance




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JoeT
 
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Default Re: Starting a file but not in 'build' mode - 12-04-2006 , 08:39 AM



I realize what he said, but that's not what I want.
I want the script to execute immediately upon the 'opening' (if that's
the proper FM terminology) of the window.

Howard's solution works fine IF I already have the window open and I
perform the script to eliminate the status/toolbars. I want them gone
immediately upon startup.

As for 'triggered automatically when you open the FM file': just how is
this done? I don't see this behaviour happening at all. In fact, if
this was the case and I had 12-scripts running, how would it know to
execute 1-particular script upon starting of the file? Maybe that's the
part I'm missing, I don't know.

One thing for sure...the documentation doesn't help much.

Joe


Remi-Noel Menegaux wrote:
Quote:
Joe,
Howard told you :
(FM7/8): File > File Options > Perform Script
(FM5/6): Edit > Preferences > File Preferences > Perform Script
It means that the chosen script will be trigged automatically when you open
the FM file.
Then in that opening script you put what you want as it runs before anything
else.
I would, though, add that you could also have a look at the 'SecureFM'
plugin at www.securefm.com that does a lot of things. It could be helpfulin
a networked solution, as some of the workstations may be set differently
from others , e.g. as 'kiosk' terminals.
Remi-Noel

"JoeT" <trubisz (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> a écrit dans le message de news:
1165182766.589726.81530 (AT) f1g2000...oglegroups.com...
OK...I obviously didn't explain this right, so I'll try again.

First off, kiosk mode will do what I want, so it's my default solution
(I'm running 8.5 Pro Adv).

However...just for personal satisfaction, on other systems, I can do
something like:

/usr/bin/runApp -f something.script

where something.script is the first thing that runApp will execute.

Perform script works just fine, IF I'm already in the app. But, what
would be ideal is if I can have the following happen when I start the
particular .fm file:

Script hide toolbars
Show/Hide status area
Perform Layout[layout]

Yeah, I know the kiosk will work, but I'm just interested in knowing if
you can do this outside of kiosk. Namely, can the first thing I do is
to run a script?

TIA,
Joe


Howard Schlossberg wrote:
(FM7/8): File > File Options > Perform Script
(FM5/6): Edit > Preferences > File Preferences > Perform Script

JoeT wrote:
OK...figured this out *almost*
Is there a way to execute a script immediately upon starting a
database?
These commands work fine, but I want them to be executed before the
initial window is displayed.
Is there a way to kick off a script first, before the window is
actually displayed?

joe


Matt Wills wrote:
Script step Allow Toolbars

Script step Show/Hide Status Area

Matt

On 11/30/2006 16:28:07 "JoeT" <trubisz (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

Hi...
Newbie question;
I have a complete application developed, but I want to deploy it
without
the toolbar, status bar, etc. I just want it to show all the layouts
I
created.
How do I go about it or where is it in the docs?
TIA, Joe


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Howard Schlossberg (818) 883-2846
FM Professional Solutions, Inc. Los Angeles

FileMaker 8 Certified Developer
Associate Member, FileMaker Solutions Alliance



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