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Starting a file but not in 'build' mode
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Re: Starting a file but not in 'build' mode -
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Joe, Howard told you : (FM7/8): File > File Options > Perform Script (FM5/6): Edit > Preferences > File Preferences > Perform Script It means that the chosen script will be trigged automatically when you open the FM file. Then in that opening script you put what you want as it runs before anything else. I would, though, add that you could also have a look at the 'SecureFM' plugin at www.securefm.com that does a lot of things. It could be helpful in a networked solution, as some of the workstations may be set differently from others , e.g. as 'kiosk' terminals. Remi-Noel "JoeT" <trubisz (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> a écrit dans le message de news: 1165182766.589726.81530 (AT) f1g2000...oglegroups.com... OK...I obviously didn't explain this right, so I'll try again. First off, kiosk mode will do what I want, so it's my default solution (I'm running 8.5 Pro Adv). However...just for personal satisfaction, on other systems, I can do something like: /usr/bin/runApp -f something.script where something.script is the first thing that runApp will execute. Perform script works just fine, IF I'm already in the app. But, what would be ideal is if I can have the following happen when I start the particular .fm file: Script hide toolbars Show/Hide status area Perform Layout[layout] Yeah, I know the kiosk will work, but I'm just interested in knowing if you can do this outside of kiosk. Namely, can the first thing I do is to run a script? TIA, Joe Howard Schlossberg wrote: (FM7/8): File > File Options > Perform Script (FM5/6): Edit > Preferences > File Preferences > Perform Script JoeT wrote: OK...figured this out *almost* Is there a way to execute a script immediately upon starting a database? These commands work fine, but I want them to be executed before the initial window is displayed. Is there a way to kick off a script first, before the window is actually displayed? joe Matt Wills wrote: Script step Allow Toolbars Script step Show/Hide Status Area Matt On 11/30/2006 16:28:07 "JoeT" <trubisz (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote: Hi... Newbie question; I have a complete application developed, but I want to deploy it without the toolbar, status bar, etc. I just want it to show all the layouts I created. How do I go about it or where is it in the docs? TIA, Joe -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Howard Schlossberg (818) 883-2846 FM Professional Solutions, Inc. Los Angeles FileMaker 8 Certified Developer Associate Member, FileMaker Solutions Alliance |
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I realize what he said, but that's not what I want. I want the script to execute immediately upon the 'opening' (if that's the proper FM terminology) of the window. Howard's solution works fine IF I already have the window open and I perform the script to eliminate the status/toolbars. I want them gone immediately upon startup. As for 'triggered automatically when you open the FM file': just how is this done? I don't see this behaviour happening at all. In fact, if this was the case and I had 12-scripts running, how would it know to execute 1-particular script upon starting of the file? Maybe that's the part I'm missing, I don't know. One thing for sure...the documentation doesn't help much. Joe Remi-Noel Menegaux wrote: Joe, Howard told you : (FM7/8): File > File Options > Perform Script (FM5/6): Edit > Preferences > File Preferences > Perform Script It means that the chosen script will be trigged automatically when you open the FM file. Then in that opening script you put what you want as it runs before anything else. I would, though, add that you could also have a look at the 'SecureFM' plugin at www.securefm.com that does a lot of things. It could be helpful in a networked solution, as some of the workstations may be set differently from others , e.g. as 'kiosk' terminals. Remi-Noel "JoeT" <trubisz (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> a écrit dans le message de news: 1165182766.589726.81530 (AT) f1g2000...oglegroups.com... OK...I obviously didn't explain this right, so I'll try again. First off, kiosk mode will do what I want, so it's my default solution (I'm running 8.5 Pro Adv). However...just for personal satisfaction, on other systems, I can do something like: /usr/bin/runApp -f something.script where something.script is the first thing that runApp will execute. Perform script works just fine, IF I'm already in the app. But, what would be ideal is if I can have the following happen when I start the particular .fm file: Script hide toolbars Show/Hide status area Perform Layout[layout] Yeah, I know the kiosk will work, but I'm just interested in knowing if you can do this outside of kiosk. Namely, can the first thing I do is to run a script? TIA, Joe Howard Schlossberg wrote: (FM7/8): File > File Options > Perform Script (FM5/6): Edit > Preferences > File Preferences > Perform Script JoeT wrote: OK...figured this out *almost* Is there a way to execute a script immediately upon starting a database? These commands work fine, but I want them to be executed before the initial window is displayed. Is there a way to kick off a script first, before the window is actually displayed? joe Matt Wills wrote: Script step Allow Toolbars Script step Show/Hide Status Area Matt On 11/30/2006 16:28:07 "JoeT" <trubisz (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote: Hi... Newbie question; I have a complete application developed, but I want to deploy it without the toolbar, status bar, etc. I just want it to show all the layouts I created. How do I go about it or where is it in the docs? TIA, Joe -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Howard Schlossberg (818) 883-2846 FM Professional Solutions, Inc. Los Angeles FileMaker 8 Certified Developer Associate Member, FileMaker Solutions Alliance |
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Howard Schlossberg (818) 883-2846
FM Professional Solutions, Inc. Los Angeles
FileMaker 8 Certified Developer
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Are you trying to start FileMaker from a command line and specify a possibly different script to run each time? You cannot do this. You can specify only one "hard-coded" script to run upon open, per my instructions. If you just want to run a script automatically to hide the status area and toolbars upon startup, then follow my instructions; they are really rather simple but they do exactly what you've told us you want to do. Is this what you want to do, or are you simplifying your description for sake of the post? Are you really trying to call a particular script from a command line? If so, there are ways to simulate this too; just let us know. What version of FileMaker are you on and what is it you are trying to do? At this point, you can (non-intuitively, for sure) look up the functionality in the help file by searching help for: (FM7/8): Setting file options (FM5/6): document preferences > setting general document preferences JoeT wrote: I realize what he said, but that's not what I want. I want the script to execute immediately upon the 'opening' (if that's the proper FM terminology) of the window. Howard's solution works fine IF I already have the window open and I perform the script to eliminate the status/toolbars. I want them gone immediately upon startup. As for 'triggered automatically when you open the FM file': just how is this done? I don't see this behaviour happening at all. In fact, if this was the case and I had 12-scripts running, how would it know to execute 1-particular script upon starting of the file? Maybe that's the part I'm missing, I don't know. One thing for sure...the documentation doesn't help much. Joe Remi-Noel Menegaux wrote: Joe, Howard told you : (FM7/8): File > File Options > Perform Script (FM5/6): Edit > Preferences > File Preferences > Perform Script It means that the chosen script will be trigged automatically when youopen the FM file. Then in that opening script you put what you want as it runs before anything else. I would, though, add that you could also have a look at the 'SecureFM' plugin at www.securefm.com that does a lot of things. It could be helpful in a networked solution, as some of the workstations may be set differently from others , e.g. as 'kiosk' terminals. Remi-Noel "JoeT" <trubisz (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> a écrit dans le message de news: 1165182766.589726.81530 (AT) f1g2000...oglegroups.com... OK...I obviously didn't explain this right, so I'll try again. First off, kiosk mode will do what I want, so it's my default solution (I'm running 8.5 Pro Adv). However...just for personal satisfaction, on other systems, I can do something like: /usr/bin/runApp -f something.script where something.script is the first thing that runApp will execute. Perform script works just fine, IF I'm already in the app. But, what would be ideal is if I can have the following happen when I start the particular .fm file: Script hide toolbars Show/Hide status area Perform Layout[layout] Yeah, I know the kiosk will work, but I'm just interested in knowing if you can do this outside of kiosk. Namely, can the first thing I do is to run a script? TIA, Joe Howard Schlossberg wrote: (FM7/8): File > File Options > Perform Script (FM5/6): Edit > Preferences > File Preferences > Perform Script JoeT wrote: OK...figured this out *almost* Is there a way to execute a script immediately upon starting a database? These commands work fine, but I want them to be executed before the initial window is displayed. Is there a way to kick off a script first, before the window is actually displayed? joe Matt Wills wrote: Script step Allow Toolbars Script step Show/Hide Status Area Matt On 11/30/2006 16:28:07 "JoeT" <trubisz (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote: Hi... Newbie question; I have a complete application developed, but I want to deploy it without the toolbar, status bar, etc. I just want it to show all the layouts I created. How do I go about it or where is it in the docs? TIA, Joe -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Howard Schlossberg (818) 883-2846 FM Professional Solutions, Inc. Los Angeles FileMaker 8 Certified Developer Associate Member, FileMaker Solutions Alliance -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Howard Schlossberg (818) 883-2846 FM Professional Solutions, Inc. Los Angeles FileMaker 8 Certified Developer Associate Member, FileMaker Solutions Alliance |
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OK...maybe explaining what it is I'm trying to do will help. I need to bypass the standard security login screen you get when you open a database. Reason: in case someone forgets their password, there is no 'forgot your password' link on the page, so the user is stopped. So...I want to create my own login window (done in FM8.5 Pro Adv) and it works fine except I can't get rid of the blasted toolbar and status bars. So...when I doubleclick the fp7 file, even if I'm not a non-admin user, I get the bars. Can't get rid of them. I need to execute a script (which I have) when the window is doubleclicked at startup. Can't find any explanation anywhere regarding the 'execute script at startup' as posted by someone else. joe Howard Schlossberg wrote: Are you trying to start FileMaker from a command line and specify a possibly different script to run each time? You cannot do this. You can specify only one "hard-coded" script to run upon open, per my instructions. If you just want to run a script automatically to hide the status area and toolbars upon startup, then follow my instructions; they are really rather simple but they do exactly what you've told us you want to do. Is this what you want to do, or are you simplifying your description for sake of the post? Are you really trying to call a particular script from a command line? If so, there are ways to simulate this too; just let us know. What version of FileMaker are you on and what is it you are trying to do? At this point, you can (non-intuitively, for sure) look up the functionality in the help file by searching help for: (FM7/8): Setting file options (FM5/6): document preferences > setting general document preferences JoeT wrote: I realize what he said, but that's not what I want. I want the script to execute immediately upon the 'opening' (if that's the proper FM terminology) of the window. Howard's solution works fine IF I already have the window open and I perform the script to eliminate the status/toolbars. I want them gone immediately upon startup. As for 'triggered automatically when you open the FM file': just how is this done? I don't see this behaviour happening at all. In fact, if this was the case and I had 12-scripts running, how would it know to execute 1-particular script upon starting of the file? Maybe that's the part I'm missing, I don't know. One thing for sure...the documentation doesn't help much. Joe Remi-Noel Menegaux wrote: Joe, Howard told you : (FM7/8): File > File Options > Perform Script (FM5/6): Edit > Preferences > File Preferences > Perform Script It means that the chosen script will be trigged automatically when you open the FM file. Then in that opening script you put what you want as it runs before anything else. I would, though, add that you could also have a look at the 'SecureFM' plugin at www.securefm.com that does a lot of things. It could be helpful in a networked solution, as some of the workstations may be set differently from others , e.g. as 'kiosk' terminals. Remi-Noel "JoeT" <trubisz (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> a écrit dans le message de news: 1165182766.589726.81530 (AT) f1g2000...oglegroups.com... OK...I obviously didn't explain this right, so I'll try again. First off, kiosk mode will do what I want, so it's my default solution (I'm running 8.5 Pro Adv). However...just for personal satisfaction, on other systems, I can do something like: /usr/bin/runApp -f something.script where something.script is the first thing that runApp will execute. Perform script works just fine, IF I'm already in the app. But, what would be ideal is if I can have the following happen when I start the particular .fm file: Script hide toolbars Show/Hide status area Perform Layout[layout] Yeah, I know the kiosk will work, but I'm just interested in knowing if you can do this outside of kiosk. Namely, can the first thing I do is to run a script? TIA, Joe Howard Schlossberg wrote: (FM7/8): File > File Options > Perform Script (FM5/6): Edit > Preferences > File Preferences > Perform Script JoeT wrote: OK...figured this out *almost* Is there a way to execute a script immediately upon starting a database? These commands work fine, but I want them to be executed before the initial window is displayed. Is there a way to kick off a script first, before the window is actually displayed? joe Matt Wills wrote: Script step Allow Toolbars Script step Show/Hide Status Area Matt On 11/30/2006 16:28:07 "JoeT" <trubisz (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote: Hi... Newbie question; I have a complete application developed, but I want to deploy it without the toolbar, status bar, etc. I just want it to show all the layouts I created. How do I go about it or where is it in the docs? TIA, Joe -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Howard Schlossberg (818) 883-2846 FM Professional Solutions, Inc. Los Angeles FileMaker 8 Certified Developer Associate Member, FileMaker Solutions Alliance -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Howard Schlossberg (818) 883-2846 FM Professional Solutions, Inc. Los Angeles FileMaker 8 Certified Developer Associate Member, FileMaker Solutions Alliance |
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Howard Schlossberg (818) 883-2846
FM Professional Solutions, Inc. Los Angeles
FileMaker 8 Certified Developer
Associate Member, FileMaker Solutions Alliance
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And what happens when you go to File > File Options > Perform Startup Script ? Once you've set a script here, close FileMaker and open that file again. If this still doesn't work, then turn on script debugger before you close the file and try it again. Does debugger come up at all when you restart with master password? JoeT wrote: OK...maybe explaining what it is I'm trying to do will help. I need to bypass the standard security login screen you get when you open a database. Reason: in case someone forgets their password, there is no 'forgot your password' link on the page, so the user is stopped. So...I want to create my own login window (done in FM8.5 Pro Adv) and it works fine except I can't get rid of the blasted toolbar and status bars. So...when I doubleclick the fp7 file, even if I'm not a non-admin user, I get the bars. Can't get rid of them. I need to execute a script (which I have) when the window is doubleclicked at startup. Can't find any explanation anywhere regarding the 'execute script at startup' as posted by someone else. joe Howard Schlossberg wrote: Are you trying to start FileMaker from a command line and specify a possibly different script to run each time? You cannot do this. You can specify only one "hard-coded" script to run upon open, per my instructions. If you just want to run a script automatically to hide the status area and toolbars upon startup, then follow my instructions; they are really rather simple but they do exactly what you've told us you want to do. Is this what you want to do, or are you simplifying your description for sake of the post? Are you really trying to call a particular script from a command line? If so, there are ways to simulate this too; just let us know. What version of FileMaker are you on and what is it you are trying to do? At this point, you can (non-intuitively, for sure) look up the functionality in the help file by searching help for: (FM7/8): Setting file options (FM5/6): document preferences > setting general document preferences JoeT wrote: I realize what he said, but that's not what I want. I want the script to execute immediately upon the 'opening' (if that's the proper FM terminology) of the window. Howard's solution works fine IF I already have the window open and I perform the script to eliminate the status/toolbars. I want them gone immediately upon startup. As for 'triggered automatically when you open the FM file': just how is this done? I don't see this behaviour happening at all. In fact, if this was the case and I had 12-scripts running, how would it know to execute 1-particular script upon starting of the file? Maybe that's the part I'm missing, I don't know. One thing for sure...the documentation doesn't help much. Joe Remi-Noel Menegaux wrote: Joe, Howard told you : (FM7/8): File > File Options > Perform Script (FM5/6): Edit > Preferences > File Preferences > Perform Script It means that the chosen script will be trigged automatically when you open the FM file. Then in that opening script you put what you want as it runs before anything else. I would, though, add that you could also have a look at the 'SecureFM' plugin at www.securefm.com that does a lot of things. It could be helpful in a networked solution, as some of the workstations may be set differently from others , e.g. as 'kiosk' terminals. Remi-Noel "JoeT" <trubisz (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> a écrit dans le message de news: 1165182766.589726.81530 (AT) f1g2000...oglegroups.com... OK...I obviously didn't explain this right, so I'll try again. First off, kiosk mode will do what I want, so it's my default solution (I'm running 8.5 Pro Adv). However...just for personal satisfaction, on other systems, I can do something like: /usr/bin/runApp -f something.script where something.script is the first thing that runApp will execute. Perform script works just fine, IF I'm already in the app. But, what would be ideal is if I can have the following happen when I start the particular .fm file: Script hide toolbars Show/Hide status area Perform Layout[layout] Yeah, I know the kiosk will work, but I'm just interested in knowing if you can do this outside of kiosk. Namely, can the first thing I do is to run a script? TIA, Joe Howard Schlossberg wrote: (FM7/8): File > File Options > Perform Script (FM5/6): Edit > Preferences > File Preferences > Perform Script JoeT wrote: OK...figured this out *almost* Is there a way to execute a script immediately upon starting a database? These commands work fine, but I want them to be executed before the initial window is displayed. Is there a way to kick off a script first, before the window is actually displayed? joe Matt Wills wrote: Script step Allow Toolbars Script step Show/Hide Status Area Matt On 11/30/2006 16:28:07 "JoeT" <trubisz (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote: Hi... Newbie question; I have a complete application developed, but I want to deploy it without the toolbar, status bar, etc. I just want it to show all the layouts I created. How do I go about it or where is it in the docs? TIA, Joe -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Howard Schlossberg (818) 883-2846 FM Professional Solutions, Inc. Los Angeles FileMaker 8 Certified Developer Associate Member, FileMaker Solutions Alliance -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Howard Schlossberg (818) 883-2846 FM Professional Solutions, Inc. Los Angeles FileMaker 8 Certified Developer Associate Member, FileMaker Solutions Alliance -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Howard Schlossberg (818) 883-2846 FM Professional Solutions, Inc. Los Angeles FileMaker 8 Certified Developer Associate Member, FileMaker Solutions Alliance |
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It might be that you're talking about a kiosk version, where all the external stuff, both the OS and Filemaker objects, are removed from the screen-- something like you might see at, say, a trade show, or at a store demo (hence, 'kiosk'). If that is the case, it can only be created using Filemaker Pro Advanced (or 'Developer' in earlier releases). But you're probably just talking about controlling the status area, which you can do with the 'Show/Hide Status Area' script step, and the toolbars, which can be controlled with the 'Allow Toolbars' script step. -- John Weinshel Datagrace Vashon Island, WA (206) 463-1634 Certified For Filemaker 8 Certified For Filemaker 7 "JoeT" <trubisz (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message news:1164922087.598009.112690 (AT) j72g2000cwa (DOT) googlegroups.com... Hi... Newbie question; I have a complete application developed, but I want to deploy it without the toolbar, status bar, etc. I just want it to show all the layouts I created. How do I go about it or where is it in the docs? TIA, Joe |
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The "Allow Toolbars" is what I've been looking for but that doesn't work on the IWP pages. Is there a way to prevent the status area from showing when presented in IWP? Steve "John Weinshel" <john (AT) datagrace (DOT) biz> wrote in message news:12mv2cofrnn5q2a (AT) news (DOT) supernews.com... It might be that you're talking about a kiosk version, where all the external stuff, both the OS and Filemaker objects, are removed from the screen-- something like you might see at, say, a trade show, or at a store demo (hence, 'kiosk'). If that is the case, it can only be created using Filemaker Pro Advanced (or 'Developer' in earlier releases). But you're probably just talking about controlling the status area, which you can do with the 'Show/Hide Status Area' script step, and the toolbars, which can be controlled with the 'Allow Toolbars' script step. -- John Weinshel Datagrace Vashon Island, WA (206) 463-1634 Certified For Filemaker 8 Certified For Filemaker 7 "JoeT" <trubisz (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message news:1164922087.598009.112690 (AT) j72g2000cwa (DOT) googlegroups.com... Hi... Newbie question; I have a complete application developed, but I want to deploy it without the toolbar, status bar, etc. I just want it to show all the layouts I created. How do I go about it or where is it in the docs? TIA, Joe |
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Howard Schlossberg (818) 883-2846
FM Professional Solutions, Inc. Los Angeles
FileMaker 8 Certified Developer
Associate Member, FileMaker Solutions Alliance
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