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Bill Marriott
 
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Default Re: [Ann] BlackBelt Now Available for FileMaker 7 and 8 - 02-28-2007 , 06:09 PM






Howard,

Quote:
User limits remain the same, as they are controlled by FileMaker web
engine and can not be legally circumvented.
This is true, but with XML/PHP the user limits work a little differently
than with IWP and FileMaker clients.

In IWP and FileMaker client connections, one of your precious slots is in
use from the time a client logs in to the site until they click Logout or
time out.

In custom web publishing, the situation is a little more flexible because
sessions are not absolutely required unless your application needs them for
things like global variables.

Otherwise, a client connects to the database, gets their information, and
disconnects. While processing requests they are using up a slot, but while
the page is sitting there on their screen they are not. Because the slot is
occupied for only a short period of time, the *effective* user limit is
considerably higher.

I have not seen the "Black Belt" product but if it is built atop PHP/XML and
does not automatically require sessions, then I assume it would indeed allow
for more "simultaneous" users.




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Amazing Iceman
 
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Default Re: [Ann] BlackBelt Now Available for FileMaker 7 and 8 - 02-28-2007 , 11:27 PM






Thank you Bill and Howard for your valuable input.

Just one more question regarding this topic:
Are there any books, help files, tutorials, websites, etc., you would
recommend me to get
or visit to learn more about accessing FileMaker databases using XML/PHP ?

What you just told me opens the doors to multiple possibilities.

I'm currently using FMP 8.5 Advanced to develop and application. Once
it's ready, I'm planning
to hosted with an ISP that hosts FMP Server databases.

There are not too many around, and I'm not sure which one to choose.

Then. I would develop a secure website that could access the FM database
to retrieve records.

I heard a lot of rumors about FMP 9, but I don't want to delay my
project to wait for
something that may not be as good as the rumor claimed it would be.

Thanks,

- The Amazing Iceman


"Bill Marriott" <wjm (AT) wjm (DOT) org> wrote

Quote:
Howard,

User limits remain the same, as they are controlled by FileMaker web
engine and can not be legally circumvented.

This is true, but with XML/PHP the user limits work a little differently
than with IWP and FileMaker clients.

In IWP and FileMaker client connections, one of your precious slots is in
use from the time a client logs in to the site until they click Logout or
time out.

In custom web publishing, the situation is a little more flexible because
sessions are not absolutely required unless your application needs them
for things like global variables.

Otherwise, a client connects to the database, gets their information, and
disconnects. While processing requests they are using up a slot, but while
the page is sitting there on their screen they are not. Because the slot
is occupied for only a short period of time, the *effective* user limit is
considerably higher.

I have not seen the "Black Belt" product but if it is built atop PHP/XML
and does not automatically require sessions, then I assume it would indeed
allow for more "simultaneous" users.




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Howard Schlossberg
 
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Default Re: [Ann] BlackBelt Now Available for FileMaker 7 and 8 - 03-01-2007 , 12:09 AM



If you haven't already discovered them, there are some good resources at
http://www.filemaker.com/developers/resources/

Also, just because Blackbelt may not be what you're looking for,
FMWebSchool has some other great products and training info:
http://www.fmwebschool.com/fmstudio.php
http://www.fxforge.net/

The official site for FX.php might give you some good info, at
http://www.iviking.org/FX.php/

You might also want to check out this training CD from Cris Ippolite,
who has spoken on web technologies at the FileMaker Developers
conference and has done a number of great websites:
http://www.amazon.com/FileMaker-8-5-...dp/1596712988/


Amazing Iceman wrote:
Quote:
Thank you Bill and Howard for your valuable input.

Just one more question regarding this topic:
Are there any books, help files, tutorials, websites, etc., you would
recommend me to get
or visit to learn more about accessing FileMaker databases using XML/PHP ?

What you just told me opens the doors to multiple possibilities.

I'm currently using FMP 8.5 Advanced to develop and application. Once
it's ready, I'm planning
to hosted with an ISP that hosts FMP Server databases.

There are not too many around, and I'm not sure which one to choose.

Then. I would develop a secure website that could access the FM database
to retrieve records.

I heard a lot of rumors about FMP 9, but I don't want to delay my
project to wait for
something that may not be as good as the rumor claimed it would be.

Thanks,

- The Amazing Iceman


"Bill Marriott" <wjm (AT) wjm (DOT) org> wrote in message
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Howard,

User limits remain the same, as they are controlled by FileMaker web
engine and can not be legally circumvented.
This is true, but with XML/PHP the user limits work a little differently
than with IWP and FileMaker clients.

In IWP and FileMaker client connections, one of your precious slots is in
use from the time a client logs in to the site until they click Logout or
time out.

In custom web publishing, the situation is a little more flexible because
sessions are not absolutely required unless your application needs them
for things like global variables.

Otherwise, a client connects to the database, gets their information, and
disconnects. While processing requests they are using up a slot, but while
the page is sitting there on their screen they are not. Because the slot
is occupied for only a short period of time, the *effective* user limit is
considerably higher.

I have not seen the "Black Belt" product but if it is built atop PHP/XML
and does not automatically require sessions, then I assume it would indeed
allow for more "simultaneous" users.



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Howard Schlossberg (818) 883-2846
FM Professional Solutions, Inc. Los Angeles

FileMaker 8 Certified Developer
Associate Member, FileMaker Solutions Alliance


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Carpeflora
 
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Default Re: BlackBelt Now Available for FileMaker 7 and 8 - 03-01-2007 , 06:46 AM



On Mar 1, 1:09 am, Howard Schlossberg
<how... (AT) antispahm (DOT) fmprosolutions.com> wrote:
Quote:
If you haven't already discovered them, there are some good resources athttp://www.filemaker.com/developers/resources/

Also, just because Blackbelt may not be what you're looking for,
FMWebSchool has some other great products and training info:http://www.fmwebschool.com/fmstudio....w.fxforge.net/

The official site for FX.php might give you some good info, athttp://www.iviking.org/FX.php/

You might also want to check out this training CD from Cris Ippolite,
who has spoken on web technologies at the FileMaker Developers
conference and has done a number of great websites:http://www.amazon.com/FileMaker-8-5-...olite/dp/15967...



www.lynda.com provides online tutorials for several programs at a
monthly subscription rate $25/mo (without sample files) or reasonable
yearly subscription with the files. Name Cris Ippolite sounds
familiar...think I may have seen him there. I've used them for
Macromedia, Adobe, Microsoft and Filemaker products so far...

Lara



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