Glad I came across this group as I did not feel like giving the
Filemaker folks $99 to ask a question on their site. Enough with the
hands in my pocket already...

I am new to Filemaker but used to program in dBase a long long time
ago. I still remember a bit of how I used to design a program. I think
they call them scripts now. Anyway, where can I go to learn how to
write a routine or program to run in batch mode, i.e. open 2
databases, select records based on criteria, update records, print a
report. Is that even possible?

Thanks for any assistance...

Doonie

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Surely this can be done. Filemaker's scripts look pretty easy, but they are
really a very powerfull tool. Filemaker is fully relational, and from
version 7 you can put as many tables as you need inside one file.

What you describe sounds like a pretty involved solution, You really need to
start to learn the basics. Do a google on filemaker examples, or learn
filemaker free, or something similar and start building.

Also return to this newsgroup with all your questions. And please state
version and platform with your questions.

Keep well, Ursus

On 7 May 2007 13:04:18 -0700, making_copies (AT) hotmail (DOT) com wrote:

Skills cost time and money to acquire. Why should people just give
them away? When you get paid for your work, isn't that your hand in
someone else's pocket?

I've asked for help here and I've received it. In return, I've
offered help here where I could. I plan to continue doing that.

Keep your hands out of my pocket. Thank you so much.

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FW

In article <geg243l9au6spgauip5rekgustljnnroe6 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com>,
FastWolf <wolfsofast (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

The OP didn't ask for someone to do his job; he asked for advice on
approaches to _learning how_ to do his job.

BTW, your sig separator is lacking the required trailing space
character. It should be '-- ', not just '--'.

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On Wed, 09 May 2007 10:39:05 -0400, Tom Stiller
<tomstiller (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote:

Your point is a good one.

Thank you, I've corrected it.

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FW

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May I jump in this discussion ?
I'd like to backup somewhat of what is behind what 'FastWolf' said.
The reason is that as a independant consultant I find it very hard to get
paid for an 'intellectual' job. People find normal to pay for goods that are
'physically' handable - like pieces of hardware - but, to my day to day
experience, they seem to be highly reluctant to pay for time spent on their
problems. Yes, I know one answer is : define the problem and set a time to
solve it and ask for that price. The problem is that I never saw a problem
well defined, nor the solution easily found, then the price is almost always
underestimated : in my case - it's surely me - I make most of the time a 1
to 10 factor error ! Even with my 15 years of experience ! If I ask for a
fixed price per hour, then the client does not see all the hours I spent
alone in my office - not in his - understanding what it is about, what
solution could be applied, how to do it, starting doing it, fixing the
errors, checking everything, then installing it, and trying to get client's
validation of it. This is particularly true for smaller clients. Generally
speaking, larger organizations accept that much more easily. Should I
restrict myself to work only with large clients ?
If I may tell a little story - way back ! in 1982-83 when I was one of the
key guys to introduce the PC in France (I worked for IBM then) - I think the
immense success of the PC came out (partly) from the pre-cooked pieces of
software when put in a box that can be put on a shelve. The box concept was
brilliant as it makes 'tangible' an 'untangible' work. But it needs to have
a solution sold as is to many people not a one-time work.
I mean so much what I said above that I am presently making most of my work
without asking to be paid (fortunately I don't need it for living) : then I
get often (but not always) a 'thank you' feedback but no respect for what I
have done. To get respect you have to get paid.
I seriously consider quitting that whole area of consulting by lack of my
part of being able to charge correctly the work done.
I know many of you have solved this problem. I salute them.
Sorry for this somewhat discouraging post, as it it may well just be me.
Regards to all developers.
Remi-Noel

On Thu, 10 May 2007 09:00:30 +0200, "Remi-Noel Menegaux"
<rnmenegaux_AT_free.fr> wrote:

My intention was to point out how, it seemed to me, the original
poster was complaining about having other people's hands in his
pockets, at the same time he was trying to put his hands into someone
else's pockets. If that makes sense.

My experience as an independent consultant doing IT is, it's very hard
to get paid what my skills are worth. The client usually has no clue
what's really involved in getting his project done: the more skilled
you are, the easier you make it look, and the less impressed he is. I
suspect we've all had that experience. On top of which clients always
want to lowball everything; no matter how much they say they care
about workmanship et cetera they go for the cheapest bid every time.

I keep doing it -- and doing it right -- because I'm old enough to
have been raised with a work ethic. I care about the work itself.
I've been trying to help a few folks on this ng because I had the
privilege of asking for help here and I believe you don't get
something for nothing.

Right now I'm an employee doing IT, the main differences are a
steadier paycheck and federal taxes of 33% instead of 50% on my
earnings.

--
FW

In article <4642c2fb$0$2337$426a74cc (AT) news (DOT) free.fr>,
"Remi-Noel Menegaux" <rnmenegaux_AT_free.fr> wrote:

I'm not sure I understand your point, but a few paragraph breaks would
do wonders for the readability or your post.

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Tom,
You may be right in the paragraph breaks. For the rest just ignore my post
which does not seem to add much to the point.

You may though remember the original post which said : "I don't want to pay
$99, so I come to you because it is free".

This is a bit offensive for the guys who take their time and brain to try to
answer questions by pure generosity.

(I don't mean me, as I don't give that many answers, often by lack of
knowledge, despite of the years spent on the subject...)

Remi-Noel


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