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Howard Schlossberg
 
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Default Re: Login issues - 11-05-2009 , 11:54 AM






Jokin wrote:
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Is there anyway to stop this kind of re-login scripts? Maybe, as other
person suggests, using the scripps debugger but I think that the
debugger will start working after the access is complete, am I right?
Script debugger will ask you for the master password upon the first
script step, before it get to a relogin step.

I think you are still confusing the username with the account name.
User name is just the name set in app preferences and you can always
access this if you open FileMaker without actually opening your
database. The account name is what is actually paired with the password
for logging in to your database.

Feel free to send me a zipped copy of the database and known passwords
and I'll see if I can figure out what it's doing.

Howard

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Jokin
 
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Default Re: Login issues - 11-06-2009 , 09:06 PM






On Nov 5, 3:32*pm, Grip <g... (AT) cybermesa (DOT) com> wrote:
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On Nov 5, 2:18*am, Jokin <joaquin.casti... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:



On 5 nov, 05:21, Grip <g... (AT) cybermesa (DOT) com> wrote:

The meaning of "open the database using the parameter set in the
server" for me is that even if I have full of diferent ways to enter
to the databases, I never introduce any password, the client FM has
the option when the databases are in a FM server to see which computer
(username) is trying to open the database and just enter directly.
This is a very good option when you have new people in your work and
you do not want to create new usernames all the time in all the
database. You can create a group with specific priviledges and then
the new people is added to the group without changes in any database.
I agree that I can not open the database locally if is open in a FMS.
Anyway, I tried all the option, one it was to close it from the FMS
and open locally, and again the "alive" database avoid all the process
and decided to be opened as a Username without many priviledges.

Regarding:
You said in your post that files log into different accounts depending
on the computer name. *That's pretty unsecure, because it means you're
storing passwords in a script. And it's the likely cause of what
you're experiencing.

I dont agree, in fact, this is a wonderful and safe way to control the
access through the server.

Absolutely not. *All a client has to do to change their privileges is
change the name of their machine. If someone can get onto your network
then they can get any access they want. *If your files are accessible
outside your local network, then anyone can do this. It may be
convenient, but safe, no.

I someone gets a hold of your physical file, they don't need a
password cracker, they can pretty easily extract the passwords in
other ways.

Please be open-minded here and read up on FMP security.

Yes, I have FMP advanced. As you know the debugger works when you are
already in the database, however the problem is before I can check it
with the script debugger.

I think what is happening is the username and password are being auto
entered by the machine's keychain system. *Then upon opening, a script
changes the login to match the computer's name. Turn on the debugger.
While opening the file, hold down the Shift (Windows) or the Option
(Mac) key. Enter your admin password. You should now be logged in as
admin and have the re-log script paused. *Cancel the opening script
and you should be in.

This approach assumes your admin user/pass is correct and the file is
not already open by another file.

I don't know much about your situation in general, but if you have 20
dbs, your either need to optimize your structure or you're running a
good-size operation. *Either way, you really need to learn more about
Filemaker Server and Filemaker Pro.
Thanks everybody, finally I could solve the problem following all your
recommendations using Shift and debugger. And, definitely agree with
Grip, I need to learn more about FMS.

Jokin

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