HowTo: translating FM Recruiter

#1

I want to translate the names of fields used on the display.

In other applications I did that simply by doubleclicking on the text
and entered whatever I wanted. In recruiter this approch does not work.

I am more or less a novice with FM8.

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Bart (voor authenticiteit zie de headers m.n. x-trace & User-agent)

#2

Could it be that the layout objects are simply locked? Click on one, go
to the 'arrange' menu and check if unlocking helps.

Bart wrote:

Quote:

I want to translate the names of fields used on the display.

In other applications I did that simply by doubleclicking on the text
and entered whatever I wanted. In recruiter this approch does not work.

I am more or less a novice with FM8.

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Howard Schlossberg (818) 883-2846
FM Pro Solutions Los Angeles, California

FileMaker 7 Certified Developer
Associate Member, FileMaker Solutions Alliance

#3

Tried that. But if I single click and go to "arrange" there is nothing
to "lock". If I doubleclick I get the "field/control setup". Strangely
the same box I see when doubleclicking on input fields.

This also happens when (double)clicking on pieces of text that are
clearly only for visual usage.

Howard Schlossberg <howard (AT) antispahm (DOT) fmprosolutions.com> wrote:

Quote:

Could it be that the layout objects are simply locked? Click on one, go
to the 'arrange' menu and check if unlocking helps.

Bart wrote:
I want to translate the names of fields used on the display.

In other applications I did that simply by doubleclicking on the text
and entered whatever I wanted. In recruiter this approch does not work.

I am more or less a novice with FM8.

--
Bart (voor authenticiteit zie de headers m.n. x-trace & User-agent)

#4

That says that the field labels are just fields, which makes for easy
changing. There should be a layout somewhere that has all the field
names on it for you to edit. I don't have Recruiter because FileMaker,
Inc. apparently wants to handle all tech support calls for their
databases. But I am sure that it is just a regular FileMaker solution,
so there should be a separate data table in that file that holds all the
field label names.

Bart wrote:

Quote:

Tried that. But if I single click and go to "arrange" there is nothing
to "lock". If I doubleclick I get the "field/control setup". Strangely
the same box I see when doubleclicking on input fields.

This also happens when (double)clicking on pieces of text that are
clearly only for visual usage.

Howard Schlossberg <howard (AT) antispahm (DOT) fmprosolutions.com> wrote:

Could it be that the layout objects are simply locked? Click on one, go
to the 'arrange' menu and check if unlocking helps.

Bart wrote:
I want to translate the names of fields used on the display.

In other applications I did that simply by doubleclicking on the text
and entered whatever I wanted. In recruiter this approch does not work.

I am more or less a novice with FM8.

--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Howard Schlossberg (818) 883-2846
FM Pro Solutions Los Angeles, California

FileMaker 7 Certified Developer
Associate Member, FileMaker Solutions Alliance

#5

Doubleclicking reveals that all should be in "zo_field_labels". So I
expect this is the table that must be altered. I see no way to open this
particular set of information.

However I did find all these labels in
"app/resources/language/fmr_language", made some changes and saved the
file. However starting the app did not reveal the translated labels.

Maybe you have some more hints?

Howard Schlossberg <howard (AT) antispahm (DOT) fmprosolutions.com> wrote:

Quote:

That says that the field labels are just fields, which makes for easy
changing. There should be a layout somewhere that has all the field
names on it for you to edit. I don't have Recruiter because FileMaker,
Inc. apparently wants to handle all tech support calls for their
databases. But I am sure that it is just a regular FileMaker solution,
so there should be a separate data table in that file that holds all the
field label names.

Bart wrote:
Tried that. But if I single click and go to "arrange" there is nothing
to "lock". If I doubleclick I get the "field/control setup". Strangely
the same box I see when doubleclicking on input fields.

This also happens when (double)clicking on pieces of text that are
clearly only for visual usage.

Howard Schlossberg <howard (AT) antispahm (DOT) fmprosolutions.com> wrote:

Could it be that the layout objects are simply locked? Click on one, go
to the 'arrange' menu and check if unlocking helps.

Bart wrote:
I want to translate the names of fields used on the display.

In other applications I did that simply by doubleclicking on the text
and entered whatever I wanted. In recruiter this approch does not work.

I am more or less a novice with FM8.

--
Bart (voor authenticiteit zie de headers m.n. x-trace & User-agent)

#6

zo_field_labels is the Table Occurrence (TO) name. Now that you know
the TO name, you can go into layout mode and create a new layout that is
based on that TO name. Add your fields and you should see what you're
looking for.

Bart wrote:

Quote:

Doubleclicking reveals that all should be in "zo_field_labels". So I
expect this is the table that must be altered. I see no way to open this
particular set of information.

However I did find all these labels in
"app/resources/language/fmr_language", made some changes and saved the
file. However starting the app did not reveal the translated labels.

Maybe you have some more hints?

Howard Schlossberg <howard (AT) antispahm (DOT) fmprosolutions.com> wrote:

That says that the field labels are just fields, which makes for easy
changing. There should be a layout somewhere that has all the field
names on it for you to edit. I don't have Recruiter because FileMaker,
Inc. apparently wants to handle all tech support calls for their
databases. But I am sure that it is just a regular FileMaker solution,
so there should be a separate data table in that file that holds all the
field label names.

Bart wrote:
Tried that. But if I single click and go to "arrange" there is nothing
to "lock". If I doubleclick I get the "field/control setup". Strangely
the same box I see when doubleclicking on input fields.

This also happens when (double)clicking on pieces of text that are
clearly only for visual usage.

Howard Schlossberg <howard (AT) antispahm (DOT) fmprosolutions.com> wrote:

Could it be that the layout objects are simply locked? Click on one, go
to the 'arrange' menu and check if unlocking helps.

Bart wrote:
I want to translate the names of fields used on the display.

In other applications I did that simply by doubleclicking on the text
and entered whatever I wanted. In recruiter this approch does not work.

I am more or less a novice with FM8.

--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Howard Schlossberg (818) 883-2846
FM Pro Solutions Los Angeles, California

FileMaker 7 Certified Developer
Associate Member, FileMaker Solutions Alliance

#7

Howard Schlossberg <howard (AT) antispahm (DOT) fmprosolutions.com> wrote:

Quote:

zo_field_labels is the Table Occurrence (TO) name. Now that you know
the TO name, you can go into layout mode and create a new layout that is
based on that TO name. Add your fields and you should see what you're
looking for.

You mean replacing all layouts by new ones?? That seems like a gigantic
job!

Is it not easier to simply change the present entries in a different
language?

Looks like I could do something like that by exporting all
"zo_field_labels", translating and then reimporting.

Or am I now completely off track?

Quote:

Bart wrote:
Doubleclicking reveals that all should be in "zo_field_labels". So I
expect this is the table that must be altered. I see no way to open this
particular set of information.

However I did find all these labels in
"app/resources/language/fmr_language", made some changes and saved the
file. However starting the app did not reveal the translated labels.

Maybe you have some more hints?

--
Bart (voor authenticiteit zie de headers m.n. x-trace & User-agent)

#8

No. My suggestion was to create one new layout for the zo_field_labels
table, where you can change all your label fields in one place. Once
you do that, those field values will populate throughout your system.
You may not even need to create a new layout for this, as most of
FileMaker's 'box' solutions have a preferences button/tab/menu somewhere
to let you do exactly what you're wanting to do.

Bart wrote:

Quote:

Howard Schlossberg <howard (AT) antispahm (DOT) fmprosolutions.com> wrote:

zo_field_labels is the Table Occurrence (TO) name. Now that you know
the TO name, you can go into layout mode and create a new layout that is
based on that TO name. Add your fields and you should see what you're
looking for.

You mean replacing all layouts by new ones?? That seems like a gigantic
job!

Is it not easier to simply change the present entries in a different
language?

Looks like I could do something like that by exporting all
"zo_field_labels", translating and then reimporting.

Or am I now completely off track?

Bart wrote:
Doubleclicking reveals that all should be in "zo_field_labels". So I
expect this is the table that must be altered. I see no way to open this
particular set of information.

However I did find all these labels in
"app/resources/language/fmr_language", made some changes and saved the
file. However starting the app did not reveal the translated labels.

Maybe you have some more hints?

--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Howard Schlossberg (818) 883-2846
FM Pro Solutions Los Angeles, California

FileMaker 7 Certified Developer
Associate Member, FileMaker Solutions Alliance

#9

Howard Schlossberg <howard (AT) antispahm (DOT) fmprosolutions.com> wrote:

Quote:

No. My suggestion was to create one new layout for the zo_field_labels
table, where you can change all your label fields in one place. Once
you do that, those field values will populate throughout your system.
You may not even need to create a new layout for this, as most of
FileMaker's 'box' solutions have a preferences button/tab/menu somewhere
to let you do exactly what you're wanting to do.

Then we are on the same track.

Problem is I cannot find a place to get a "grip" on this
"zo_fields_labels" table from within the app. I can see
(files|define|databases) that it somehow relates to the "language"
file.

If I checkout "app/resources/language/fmr_language" then I can fill in
the fieldnames however these clearly are not used in the app itself.

Quote:

Bart wrote:
Howard Schlossberg <howard (AT) antispahm (DOT) fmprosolutions.com> wrote:

zo_field_labels is the Table Occurrence (TO) name. Now that you know
the TO name, you can go into layout mode and create a new layout that is
based on that TO name. Add your fields and you should see what you're
looking for.

You mean replacing all layouts by new ones?? That seems like a gigantic
job!

Is it not easier to simply change the present entries in a different
language?

Looks like I could do something like that by exporting all
"zo_field_labels", translating and then reimporting.

Or am I now completely off track?

Bart wrote:
Doubleclicking reveals that all should be in "zo_field_labels". So I
expect this is the table that must be altered. I see no way to open this
particular set of information.

However I did find all these labels in
"app/resources/language/fmr_language", made some changes and saved the
file. However starting the app did not reveal the translated labels.

Maybe you have some more hints?

--
Bart (voor authenticiteit zie de headers m.n. x-trace & User-agent)

#10

I would suggest calling FileMaker, Inc. for support since you bought the
solution from them. They unfortunately don't make any of their database
solutions available to us developers to help people, so I'd be shooting
blind if I tried to get through this with you.

Bart wrote:

Quote:

Howard Schlossberg <howard (AT) antispahm (DOT) fmprosolutions.com> wrote:

No. My suggestion was to create one new layout for the zo_field_labels
table, where you can change all your label fields in one place. Once
you do that, those field values will populate throughout your system.
You may not even need to create a new layout for this, as most of
FileMaker's 'box' solutions have a preferences button/tab/menu somewhere
to let you do exactly what you're wanting to do.

Then we are on the same track.

Problem is I cannot find a place to get a "grip" on this
"zo_fields_labels" table from within the app. I can see
(files|define|databases) that it somehow relates to the "language"
file.

If I checkout "app/resources/language/fmr_language" then I can fill in
the fieldnames however these clearly are not used in the app itself.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Howard Schlossberg (818) 883-2846
FM Pro Solutions Los Angeles, California

FileMaker 7 Certified Developer
Associate Member, FileMaker Solutions Alliance