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Theo Vermeulen
 
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Default auto starting script - 09-30-2004 , 05:44 PM






To all file maker pro - proffesioals:

When starting an commercial application in file maker pro, the system starts
a script...
This script is asking for a password ( not the database password !!! ) en
then logs on to file maker... and starting de complete application....

I've got all passwords for the database, but when i log in using the SHIFT
key ( thus overriding the start up script ), even using the admin
passwords.. the application still starts automatic, and therefore locks me
out.

The only possibility is using an exit point in the software...but this is
only possible bij entering an exit code, only available from the
supplier.... ( fyi:'the supplier isn't willing to give this code to me ).


Can anyone give me some hints, or hands-on by solving this problem for
me????


Pls. contact me on my email adres,



Regards,



Theo Vermeulen.





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Tim 'Webko' Booth
 
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Default Re: auto starting script - 09-30-2004 , 08:53 PM







"Theo Vermeulen" <theo.vermeulen (AT) xs4all (DOT) nl> wrote

Quote:
To all file maker pro - proffesioals:

When starting an commercial application in file maker pro, the system
starts
a script...
This script is asking for a password ( not the database password !!! ) en
then logs on to file maker... and starting de complete application....

I've got all passwords for the database, but when i log in using the SHIFT
key ( thus overriding the start up script ), even using the admin
passwords.. the application still starts automatic, and therefore locks me
out.

The only possibility is using an exit point in the software...but this is
only possible bij entering an exit code, only available from the
supplier.... ( fyi:'the supplier isn't willing to give this code to me ).


Can anyone give me some hints, or hands-on by solving this problem for
me????
Let me get this straight - you want us to help you crack a commercially
written piece of software when the developer has refused to let you do so.

I don't think you'll get a lot of help here if this is the case...

Cheers

Webko




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Theo Vermeulen
 
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Default Re: auto starting script - 10-01-2004 , 11:23 AM



I Agree,

This isn't the right way to do it....

But... what if the author is the software is neglecting his dutys, and
selling his software without proper support etc...

All legal actions so far, run out of options....

Besides buying a complete new applicatie, this is the only solution...
"Tim 'Webko' Booth" <T.Booth (AT) isu (DOT) usyd.edu.au> schreef in bericht
news:cjid85$r1r$1 (AT) spacebar (DOT) ucc.usyd.edu.au...
Quote:
"Theo Vermeulen" <theo.vermeulen (AT) xs4all (DOT) nl> wrote in message
news:415c7e62$0$36860$e4fe514c (AT) news (DOT) xs4all.nl...
To all file maker pro - proffesioals:

When starting an commercial application in file maker pro, the system
starts
a script...
This script is asking for a password ( not the database password !!! ) en
then logs on to file maker... and starting de complete application....

I've got all passwords for the database, but when i log in using the
SHIFT
key ( thus overriding the start up script ), even using the admin
passwords.. the application still starts automatic, and therefore locks
me
out.

The only possibility is using an exit point in the software...but this is
only possible bij entering an exit code, only available from the
supplier.... ( fyi:'the supplier isn't willing to give this code to me ).


Can anyone give me some hints, or hands-on by solving this problem for
me????

Let me get this straight - you want us to help you crack a commercially
written piece of software when the developer has refused to let you do so.

I don't think you'll get a lot of help here if this is the case...

Cheers

Webko





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~consul
 
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Default Re: auto starting script - 10-08-2004 , 01:55 PM



Tim 'Webko' Booth wrote:
Quote:
"Theo Vermeulen" <theo.vermeulen (AT) xs4all (DOT) nl> wrote in message
To all file maker pro - proffesioals:
When starting an commercial application in file maker pro, the system starts
a script...
This script is asking for a password ( not the database password !!! ) en
then logs on to file maker... and starting de complete application....
I've got all passwords for the database, but when i log in using the SHIFT
key ( thus overriding the start up script ), even using the admin
passwords.. the application still starts automatic, and therefore locks me
out.
Let me get this straight - you want us to help you crack a commercially
written piece of software when the developer has refused to let you do so.
I don't think you'll get a lot of help here if this is the case...
He said that he's got passwords to use it. Is it the case that he wants to break in or
that he is just too slow to catch the login page with the shift key? I know for me, my
lightening reflexes sometimes misses that shift key option.

Or does stuff built using FM Developer doesn't allow the use of the shift key option?
--
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-till next time, Jameson Stalanthas Yu -x- <<poetry.dolphins-cove.com>>
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flamel
 
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Default Re: auto starting script - 10-08-2004 , 02:23 PM



Hi consul,

It appears that Theo knows how to successfully use the Shift key to
enter the master password.

The issue is that the developer of the commercial solution runs a
startup script (prompting for a data-based password) that is still
running and prohibits full access.

Theo, have you asked the application developer for access to the solution?



On 2004-10-08 14:55:38 -0400, ~consul <consul (AT) INVALIDdolphins-cove (DOT) com> said:

Quote:
Tim 'Webko' Booth wrote:
"Theo Vermeulen" <theo.vermeulen (AT) xs4all (DOT) nl> wrote in message
To all file maker pro - proffesioals:
When starting an commercial application in file maker pro, the system starts
a script...
This script is asking for a password ( not the database password !!! ) en
then logs on to file maker... and starting de complete application....
I've got all passwords for the database, but when i log in using the SHIFT
key ( thus overriding the start up script ), even using the admin
passwords.. the application still starts automatic, and therefore locks me
out.
Let me get this straight - you want us to help you crack a commercially
written piece of software when the developer has refused to let you do so.
I don't think you'll get a lot of help here if this is the case...

He said that he's got passwords to use it. Is it the case that he wants
to break in or that he is just too slow to catch the login page with
the shift key? I know for me, my lightening reflexes sometimes misses
that shift key option.

Or does stuff built using FM Developer doesn't allow the use of the
shift key option?



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Theo Vermeulen
 
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Default Re: auto starting script - 10-10-2004 , 01:55 PM



Yes,

I asked the developer for a working application, but he's refusing any
cooperation. Because the end-user of the software "a good relation of me"
has payed the full price for this non-working solution, ik feel i have the
right to crack this applycation.

So if anyone has a solution, or can give serious hints, please reply...


Greeting,


Theo



"flamel" <nospam (AT) msn (DOT) com> schreef in bericht
news:2004100815230319214%nospam (AT) msncom (DOT) ..
Quote:
Hi consul,

It appears that Theo knows how to successfully use the Shift key to enter
the master password.

The issue is that the developer of the commercial solution runs a startup
script (prompting for a data-based password) that is still running and
prohibits full access.

Theo, have you asked the application developer for access to the solution?



On 2004-10-08 14:55:38 -0400, ~consul <consul (AT) INVALIDdolphins-cove (DOT) com
said:

Tim 'Webko' Booth wrote:
"Theo Vermeulen" <theo.vermeulen (AT) xs4all (DOT) nl> wrote in message
To all file maker pro - proffesioals:
When starting an commercial application in file maker pro, the system
starts
a script...
This script is asking for a password ( not the database password !!! )
en
then logs on to file maker... and starting de complete application....
I've got all passwords for the database, but when i log in using the
SHIFT
key ( thus overriding the start up script ), even using the admin
passwords.. the application still starts automatic, and therefore locks
me
out.
Let me get this straight - you want us to help you crack a commercially
written piece of software when the developer has refused to let you do
so.
I don't think you'll get a lot of help here if this is the case...

He said that he's got passwords to use it. Is it the case that he wants
to break in or that he is just too slow to catch the login page with the
shift key? I know for me, my lightening reflexes sometimes misses that
shift key option.

Or does stuff built using FM Developer doesn't allow the use of the shift
key option?





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Lynn allen
 
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Default Re: auto starting script - 10-10-2004 , 05:44 PM



Theo Vermeulen <theo.vermeulen (AT) xs4all (DOT) nl> wrote:

Quote:
I asked the developer for a working application, but he's refusing any
cooperation. Because the end-user of the software "a good relation of me"
has payed the full price for this non-working solution, ik feel i have the
right to crack this applycation.
Sorry, bubba. The fact that your "good relation" paid for this solution
does not give you, or your relation, the right to crack the application.

Software licensing does NOT include access to code, unless so stated.
Most developers who sell open source software charge a much higher fee
for the master password, and have very stringent licensing terms so that
someone cannot re-sell a modified solution.

You get to use the software (actually, the person who paid for it does),
not crack or reverse engineer. Your feelings have no legal standing,
and I don't blame the application designer for refusing to help you
pirate his software.

Now, if you'd gone to him politely and asked for either a bug-free copy
or (paid) assistance with customizing the solution to your needs, you
might have gotten a different answer. Demanding access for retail
pricing isn't going to get you anywhere.

It always seems so ironic that those who cannot create on their own are
so resentful and dismissive of the rights of creative people to own,
protect and profit from the products of their creativity. :/

Lynn Allen
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www.semiotics.com


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