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Brad Kunkel
 
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Default Re: Upgrade from Version 5 to Version 9.5 - Help Again - 03-20-2008 , 11:22 AM






The documentation says the following:
--------------
BUTIL-1: Message file initialization failed
Only BUTIL.EXE in DOS returns this message. The utility could not find the
BUTILDOS.MSG file, which contains messages that the utility uses. Ensure
that you installed NetWare Communication Services correctly.

--------------

What BUTIL command is being run after you log out. The command is probably
in the batch file that runs the application in question. If the command is
BUTIL -STOP try REMing that out and inserting BREQUEST /U instead.

HTH,

Brad Kunkel
Integrated Business, Inc.


"Robert" <hockey (AT) vernon (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
I can login and the interface seems to work for most of it, but when I log
out I get an error from Butil that says:

BUTIL-1:Wrong version of message file or message file not found.

Any suggestions?

Thanks again for all the help.

Robert

Robert wrote:
Thanks Brad. That seemed to work. I will have to test it to make sure
that all the components work.

Thanks again for the help.

Robert

Brad Kunkel wrote:
What you can do is REM the line that loads the driver in CONFIG.NT.
This will disable the DOS file access in the Pervasive Client. After
that go back to using BREQUEST and it should work. You may also have to
re-install the Netware client and include IPX/SPX support. Actually,
IPX/SPX may need to be enabled on the server as well.

HTH,
Brad Kunkel
Integrated Business, Inc.


"Robert" <hockey (AT) vernon (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:wphCj.85978$pM4.52216 (AT) pd7urf1no (DOT) ..
Thanks for the reply. The CONFIG.NT is there and it says it is going to
load the btrdrvr.sys file. I cannot get the application to load, so I
have to think that the application will not run without the BREQUEST
and BUTIL functions working. I get an error from both.

Thanks again for the help.

Robert

Brad Kunkel wrote:
If you installed the 9.5 client on your XP computer then there is
driver installed in CONFIG.NT that loads with the command prompt. Try
running the application or whatever without first loading BREQUEST.
It should work. If not, there are other ways to make it work.

If your network has W98 computers, load BDOSSTUB instead of BREQUEST
on those workstations.

HTH,
Brad Kunkel
Integrated Business, Inc.


"Robert" <hockey (AT) vernon (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:a_UBj.76087$w94.36138 (AT) pd7urf2no (DOT) ..
Hello all,

I am not very familiar with Pervasive software, so these might seem
like really basic questions, but we have a Novell 4.12 server running
an old Dos application that uses Btrieve version 5 and we want to
upgrade to something newer. I have a Netware 6.5 server running and I
think I have correctly installed the Pervasive 9.5 for Netware
package, but I cannot connect to it from a Dos prompt on a Windows XP
computer. The Novell is working correctly, but if I run BREQUEST from
the workstation I get:
BREQUEST-10: the function IPXInitialize returned an error.

If I try BREQTCP I get:
BREQTCP-10: The function InitSocketLibrary returned an error.

I am not tied to any OS and would be open to any and all suggestions
including a complete migration to Linux.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Robert




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Brad Kunkel
 
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Default Re: Upgrade from Version 5 to Version 9.5 - Help Again - 03-20-2008 , 11:22 AM






The documentation says the following:
--------------
BUTIL-1: Message file initialization failed
Only BUTIL.EXE in DOS returns this message. The utility could not find the
BUTILDOS.MSG file, which contains messages that the utility uses. Ensure
that you installed NetWare Communication Services correctly.

--------------

What BUTIL command is being run after you log out. The command is probably
in the batch file that runs the application in question. If the command is
BUTIL -STOP try REMing that out and inserting BREQUEST /U instead.

HTH,

Brad Kunkel
Integrated Business, Inc.


"Robert" <hockey (AT) vernon (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
I can login and the interface seems to work for most of it, but when I log
out I get an error from Butil that says:

BUTIL-1:Wrong version of message file or message file not found.

Any suggestions?

Thanks again for all the help.

Robert

Robert wrote:
Thanks Brad. That seemed to work. I will have to test it to make sure
that all the components work.

Thanks again for the help.

Robert

Brad Kunkel wrote:
What you can do is REM the line that loads the driver in CONFIG.NT.
This will disable the DOS file access in the Pervasive Client. After
that go back to using BREQUEST and it should work. You may also have to
re-install the Netware client and include IPX/SPX support. Actually,
IPX/SPX may need to be enabled on the server as well.

HTH,
Brad Kunkel
Integrated Business, Inc.


"Robert" <hockey (AT) vernon (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:wphCj.85978$pM4.52216 (AT) pd7urf1no (DOT) ..
Thanks for the reply. The CONFIG.NT is there and it says it is going to
load the btrdrvr.sys file. I cannot get the application to load, so I
have to think that the application will not run without the BREQUEST
and BUTIL functions working. I get an error from both.

Thanks again for the help.

Robert

Brad Kunkel wrote:
If you installed the 9.5 client on your XP computer then there is
driver installed in CONFIG.NT that loads with the command prompt. Try
running the application or whatever without first loading BREQUEST.
It should work. If not, there are other ways to make it work.

If your network has W98 computers, load BDOSSTUB instead of BREQUEST
on those workstations.

HTH,
Brad Kunkel
Integrated Business, Inc.


"Robert" <hockey (AT) vernon (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:a_UBj.76087$w94.36138 (AT) pd7urf2no (DOT) ..
Hello all,

I am not very familiar with Pervasive software, so these might seem
like really basic questions, but we have a Novell 4.12 server running
an old Dos application that uses Btrieve version 5 and we want to
upgrade to something newer. I have a Netware 6.5 server running and I
think I have correctly installed the Pervasive 9.5 for Netware
package, but I cannot connect to it from a Dos prompt on a Windows XP
computer. The Novell is working correctly, but if I run BREQUEST from
the workstation I get:
BREQUEST-10: the function IPXInitialize returned an error.

If I try BREQTCP I get:
BREQTCP-10: The function InitSocketLibrary returned an error.

I am not tied to any OS and would be open to any and all suggestions
including a complete migration to Linux.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Robert




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  #23  
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Robert
 
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Default Re: Upgrade from Version 5 to Version 9.5 - Help Again - 03-20-2008 , 11:41 AM



Brad,

I saw that in the documentation and the file exists. I have not idea if
it is correct, but it is there. Strangely I cannot run the application
if I use the newer DOS utilities that I installed on the server. It only
works with the old version 5.0 that it came with. I am not overly
impressed with the programmers talents at this point.

There is nothing in the batch file about BUTIL, so I will assume that
BUTIL is being called from the bmmenu5.exe, which is being called from
the batch file. Is there any debug utilities out there that I can run to
see what is actually happening?

thanks again for the help.

Robert

Brad Kunkel wrote:
Quote:
The documentation says the following:
--------------
BUTIL-1: Message file initialization failed
Only BUTIL.EXE in DOS returns this message. The utility could not find the
BUTILDOS.MSG file, which contains messages that the utility uses. Ensure
that you installed NetWare Communication Services correctly.

--------------

What BUTIL command is being run after you log out. The command is probably
in the batch file that runs the application in question. If the command is
BUTIL -STOP try REMing that out and inserting BREQUEST /U instead.

HTH,

Brad Kunkel
Integrated Business, Inc.


"Robert" <hockey (AT) vernon (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:VRvEj.98998$w94.56134 (AT) pd7urf2no (DOT) ..
I can login and the interface seems to work for most of it, but when I log
out I get an error from Butil that says:

BUTIL-1:Wrong version of message file or message file not found.

Any suggestions?

Thanks again for all the help.

Robert

Robert wrote:
Thanks Brad. That seemed to work. I will have to test it to make sure
that all the components work.

Thanks again for the help.

Robert

Brad Kunkel wrote:
What you can do is REM the line that loads the driver in CONFIG.NT.
This will disable the DOS file access in the Pervasive Client. After
that go back to using BREQUEST and it should work. You may also have to
re-install the Netware client and include IPX/SPX support. Actually,
IPX/SPX may need to be enabled on the server as well.

HTH,
Brad Kunkel
Integrated Business, Inc.


"Robert" <hockey (AT) vernon (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:wphCj.85978$pM4.52216 (AT) pd7urf1no (DOT) ..
Thanks for the reply. The CONFIG.NT is there and it says it is going to
load the btrdrvr.sys file. I cannot get the application to load, so I
have to think that the application will not run without the BREQUEST
and BUTIL functions working. I get an error from both.

Thanks again for the help.

Robert

Brad Kunkel wrote:
If you installed the 9.5 client on your XP computer then there is
driver installed in CONFIG.NT that loads with the command prompt. Try
running the application or whatever without first loading BREQUEST.
It should work. If not, there are other ways to make it work.

If your network has W98 computers, load BDOSSTUB instead of BREQUEST
on those workstations.

HTH,
Brad Kunkel
Integrated Business, Inc.


"Robert" <hockey (AT) vernon (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:a_UBj.76087$w94.36138 (AT) pd7urf2no (DOT) ..
Hello all,

I am not very familiar with Pervasive software, so these might seem
like really basic questions, but we have a Novell 4.12 server running
an old Dos application that uses Btrieve version 5 and we want to
upgrade to something newer. I have a Netware 6.5 server running and I
think I have correctly installed the Pervasive 9.5 for Netware
package, but I cannot connect to it from a Dos prompt on a Windows XP
computer. The Novell is working correctly, but if I run BREQUEST from
the workstation I get:
BREQUEST-10: the function IPXInitialize returned an error.

If I try BREQTCP I get:
BREQTCP-10: The function InitSocketLibrary returned an error.

I am not tied to any OS and would be open to any and all suggestions
including a complete migration to Linux.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Robert



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  #24  
Old   
Robert
 
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Default Re: Upgrade from Version 5 to Version 9.5 - Help Again - 03-20-2008 , 11:41 AM



Brad,

I saw that in the documentation and the file exists. I have not idea if
it is correct, but it is there. Strangely I cannot run the application
if I use the newer DOS utilities that I installed on the server. It only
works with the old version 5.0 that it came with. I am not overly
impressed with the programmers talents at this point.

There is nothing in the batch file about BUTIL, so I will assume that
BUTIL is being called from the bmmenu5.exe, which is being called from
the batch file. Is there any debug utilities out there that I can run to
see what is actually happening?

thanks again for the help.

Robert

Brad Kunkel wrote:
Quote:
The documentation says the following:
--------------
BUTIL-1: Message file initialization failed
Only BUTIL.EXE in DOS returns this message. The utility could not find the
BUTILDOS.MSG file, which contains messages that the utility uses. Ensure
that you installed NetWare Communication Services correctly.

--------------

What BUTIL command is being run after you log out. The command is probably
in the batch file that runs the application in question. If the command is
BUTIL -STOP try REMing that out and inserting BREQUEST /U instead.

HTH,

Brad Kunkel
Integrated Business, Inc.


"Robert" <hockey (AT) vernon (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:VRvEj.98998$w94.56134 (AT) pd7urf2no (DOT) ..
I can login and the interface seems to work for most of it, but when I log
out I get an error from Butil that says:

BUTIL-1:Wrong version of message file or message file not found.

Any suggestions?

Thanks again for all the help.

Robert

Robert wrote:
Thanks Brad. That seemed to work. I will have to test it to make sure
that all the components work.

Thanks again for the help.

Robert

Brad Kunkel wrote:
What you can do is REM the line that loads the driver in CONFIG.NT.
This will disable the DOS file access in the Pervasive Client. After
that go back to using BREQUEST and it should work. You may also have to
re-install the Netware client and include IPX/SPX support. Actually,
IPX/SPX may need to be enabled on the server as well.

HTH,
Brad Kunkel
Integrated Business, Inc.


"Robert" <hockey (AT) vernon (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:wphCj.85978$pM4.52216 (AT) pd7urf1no (DOT) ..
Thanks for the reply. The CONFIG.NT is there and it says it is going to
load the btrdrvr.sys file. I cannot get the application to load, so I
have to think that the application will not run without the BREQUEST
and BUTIL functions working. I get an error from both.

Thanks again for the help.

Robert

Brad Kunkel wrote:
If you installed the 9.5 client on your XP computer then there is
driver installed in CONFIG.NT that loads with the command prompt. Try
running the application or whatever without first loading BREQUEST.
It should work. If not, there are other ways to make it work.

If your network has W98 computers, load BDOSSTUB instead of BREQUEST
on those workstations.

HTH,
Brad Kunkel
Integrated Business, Inc.


"Robert" <hockey (AT) vernon (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:a_UBj.76087$w94.36138 (AT) pd7urf2no (DOT) ..
Hello all,

I am not very familiar with Pervasive software, so these might seem
like really basic questions, but we have a Novell 4.12 server running
an old Dos application that uses Btrieve version 5 and we want to
upgrade to something newer. I have a Netware 6.5 server running and I
think I have correctly installed the Pervasive 9.5 for Netware
package, but I cannot connect to it from a Dos prompt on a Windows XP
computer. The Novell is working correctly, but if I run BREQUEST from
the workstation I get:
BREQUEST-10: the function IPXInitialize returned an error.

If I try BREQTCP I get:
BREQTCP-10: The function InitSocketLibrary returned an error.

I am not tied to any OS and would be open to any and all suggestions
including a complete migration to Linux.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Robert



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  #25  
Old   
Robert
 
Posts: n/a

Default Re: Upgrade from Version 5 to Version 9.5 - Help Again - 03-20-2008 , 11:41 AM



Brad,

I saw that in the documentation and the file exists. I have not idea if
it is correct, but it is there. Strangely I cannot run the application
if I use the newer DOS utilities that I installed on the server. It only
works with the old version 5.0 that it came with. I am not overly
impressed with the programmers talents at this point.

There is nothing in the batch file about BUTIL, so I will assume that
BUTIL is being called from the bmmenu5.exe, which is being called from
the batch file. Is there any debug utilities out there that I can run to
see what is actually happening?

thanks again for the help.

Robert

Brad Kunkel wrote:
Quote:
The documentation says the following:
--------------
BUTIL-1: Message file initialization failed
Only BUTIL.EXE in DOS returns this message. The utility could not find the
BUTILDOS.MSG file, which contains messages that the utility uses. Ensure
that you installed NetWare Communication Services correctly.

--------------

What BUTIL command is being run after you log out. The command is probably
in the batch file that runs the application in question. If the command is
BUTIL -STOP try REMing that out and inserting BREQUEST /U instead.

HTH,

Brad Kunkel
Integrated Business, Inc.


"Robert" <hockey (AT) vernon (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:VRvEj.98998$w94.56134 (AT) pd7urf2no (DOT) ..
I can login and the interface seems to work for most of it, but when I log
out I get an error from Butil that says:

BUTIL-1:Wrong version of message file or message file not found.

Any suggestions?

Thanks again for all the help.

Robert

Robert wrote:
Thanks Brad. That seemed to work. I will have to test it to make sure
that all the components work.

Thanks again for the help.

Robert

Brad Kunkel wrote:
What you can do is REM the line that loads the driver in CONFIG.NT.
This will disable the DOS file access in the Pervasive Client. After
that go back to using BREQUEST and it should work. You may also have to
re-install the Netware client and include IPX/SPX support. Actually,
IPX/SPX may need to be enabled on the server as well.

HTH,
Brad Kunkel
Integrated Business, Inc.


"Robert" <hockey (AT) vernon (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:wphCj.85978$pM4.52216 (AT) pd7urf1no (DOT) ..
Thanks for the reply. The CONFIG.NT is there and it says it is going to
load the btrdrvr.sys file. I cannot get the application to load, so I
have to think that the application will not run without the BREQUEST
and BUTIL functions working. I get an error from both.

Thanks again for the help.

Robert

Brad Kunkel wrote:
If you installed the 9.5 client on your XP computer then there is
driver installed in CONFIG.NT that loads with the command prompt. Try
running the application or whatever without first loading BREQUEST.
It should work. If not, there are other ways to make it work.

If your network has W98 computers, load BDOSSTUB instead of BREQUEST
on those workstations.

HTH,
Brad Kunkel
Integrated Business, Inc.


"Robert" <hockey (AT) vernon (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:a_UBj.76087$w94.36138 (AT) pd7urf2no (DOT) ..
Hello all,

I am not very familiar with Pervasive software, so these might seem
like really basic questions, but we have a Novell 4.12 server running
an old Dos application that uses Btrieve version 5 and we want to
upgrade to something newer. I have a Netware 6.5 server running and I
think I have correctly installed the Pervasive 9.5 for Netware
package, but I cannot connect to it from a Dos prompt on a Windows XP
computer. The Novell is working correctly, but if I run BREQUEST from
the workstation I get:
BREQUEST-10: the function IPXInitialize returned an error.

If I try BREQTCP I get:
BREQTCP-10: The function InitSocketLibrary returned an error.

I am not tied to any OS and would be open to any and all suggestions
including a complete migration to Linux.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Robert



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  #26  
Old   
Brad Kunkel
 
Posts: n/a

Default Re: Upgrade from Version 5 to Version 9.5 - Help Again - 03-21-2008 , 11:07 AM



I am guessing that the Btrieve files with your application are a version
earlier than ver 5 and I think that the newer Pervasive client does not
support versions before 5. Someone else on this NG may know for sure.

You could use a hex editor to look inside the bmmenu5.exe file to see what
BUTIL command is being executed. If it is BUTIL -STOP then you could take
the old BUTIL out of the application's path so that when it runs BUTIL it
gets the new one. However, based on the error message, it kind of looks
like it is already running the new one because I'm pretty sure the old
BUTILs did not use a MSG file. Did you check that C:\PVSW\BIN is in the
path?

If BUTIL -STOP is the command being executed and your application is being
run from a desktop link then the error is probably irrelevant. BUTIL -STOP
is meant to unload the BREQUEST TSR and so if your application exits back to
the desktop then the whole DOS session is unloaded when the program exits.

HTH,
Brad Kunkel
Integrated Business, Inc.



"Robert" <hockey (AT) vernon (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
Brad,

I saw that in the documentation and the file exists. I have not idea if it
is correct, but it is there. Strangely I cannot run the application if I
use the newer DOS utilities that I installed on the server. It only works
with the old version 5.0 that it came with. I am not overly impressed with
the programmers talents at this point.

There is nothing in the batch file about BUTIL, so I will assume that
BUTIL is being called from the bmmenu5.exe, which is being called from the
batch file. Is there any debug utilities out there that I can run to see
what is actually happening?

thanks again for the help.

Robert

Brad Kunkel wrote:
The documentation says the following:
--------------
BUTIL-1: Message file initialization failed
Only BUTIL.EXE in DOS returns this message. The utility could not find
the BUTILDOS.MSG file, which contains messages that the utility uses.
Ensure that you installed NetWare Communication Services correctly.

--------------

What BUTIL command is being run after you log out. The command is
probably in the batch file that runs the application in question. If the
command is BUTIL -STOP try REMing that out and inserting BREQUEST /U
instead.

HTH,

Brad Kunkel
Integrated Business, Inc.


"Robert" <hockey (AT) vernon (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:VRvEj.98998$w94.56134 (AT) pd7urf2no (DOT) ..
I can login and the interface seems to work for most of it, but when I
log out I get an error from Butil that says:

BUTIL-1:Wrong version of message file or message file not found.

Any suggestions?

Thanks again for all the help.

Robert

Robert wrote:
Thanks Brad. That seemed to work. I will have to test it to make sure
that all the components work.

Thanks again for the help.

Robert

Brad Kunkel wrote:
What you can do is REM the line that loads the driver in CONFIG.NT.
This will disable the DOS file access in the Pervasive Client. After
that go back to using BREQUEST and it should work. You may also have
to re-install the Netware client and include IPX/SPX support.
Actually, IPX/SPX may need to be enabled on the server as well.

HTH,
Brad Kunkel
Integrated Business, Inc.


"Robert" <hockey (AT) vernon (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:wphCj.85978$pM4.52216 (AT) pd7urf1no (DOT) ..
Thanks for the reply. The CONFIG.NT is there and it says it is going
to load the btrdrvr.sys file. I cannot get the application to load,
so I have to think that the application will not run without the
BREQUEST and BUTIL functions working. I get an error from both.

Thanks again for the help.

Robert

Brad Kunkel wrote:
If you installed the 9.5 client on your XP computer then there is
driver installed in CONFIG.NT that loads with the command prompt.
Try running the application or whatever without first loading
BREQUEST. It should work. If not, there are other ways to make it
work.

If your network has W98 computers, load BDOSSTUB instead of BREQUEST
on those workstations.

HTH,
Brad Kunkel
Integrated Business, Inc.


"Robert" <hockey (AT) vernon (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:a_UBj.76087$w94.36138 (AT) pd7urf2no (DOT) ..
Hello all,

I am not very familiar with Pervasive software, so these might seem
like really basic questions, but we have a Novell 4.12 server
running an old Dos application that uses Btrieve version 5 and we
want to upgrade to something newer. I have a Netware 6.5 server
running and I think I have correctly installed the Pervasive 9.5
for Netware package, but I cannot connect to it from a Dos prompt
on a Windows XP computer. The Novell is working correctly, but if I
run BREQUEST from the workstation I get:
BREQUEST-10: the function IPXInitialize returned an error.

If I try BREQTCP I get:
BREQTCP-10: The function InitSocketLibrary returned an error.

I am not tied to any OS and would be open to any and all
suggestions including a complete migration to Linux.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Robert



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Old   
Brad Kunkel
 
Posts: n/a

Default Re: Upgrade from Version 5 to Version 9.5 - Help Again - 03-21-2008 , 11:07 AM



I am guessing that the Btrieve files with your application are a version
earlier than ver 5 and I think that the newer Pervasive client does not
support versions before 5. Someone else on this NG may know for sure.

You could use a hex editor to look inside the bmmenu5.exe file to see what
BUTIL command is being executed. If it is BUTIL -STOP then you could take
the old BUTIL out of the application's path so that when it runs BUTIL it
gets the new one. However, based on the error message, it kind of looks
like it is already running the new one because I'm pretty sure the old
BUTILs did not use a MSG file. Did you check that C:\PVSW\BIN is in the
path?

If BUTIL -STOP is the command being executed and your application is being
run from a desktop link then the error is probably irrelevant. BUTIL -STOP
is meant to unload the BREQUEST TSR and so if your application exits back to
the desktop then the whole DOS session is unloaded when the program exits.

HTH,
Brad Kunkel
Integrated Business, Inc.



"Robert" <hockey (AT) vernon (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
Brad,

I saw that in the documentation and the file exists. I have not idea if it
is correct, but it is there. Strangely I cannot run the application if I
use the newer DOS utilities that I installed on the server. It only works
with the old version 5.0 that it came with. I am not overly impressed with
the programmers talents at this point.

There is nothing in the batch file about BUTIL, so I will assume that
BUTIL is being called from the bmmenu5.exe, which is being called from the
batch file. Is there any debug utilities out there that I can run to see
what is actually happening?

thanks again for the help.

Robert

Brad Kunkel wrote:
The documentation says the following:
--------------
BUTIL-1: Message file initialization failed
Only BUTIL.EXE in DOS returns this message. The utility could not find
the BUTILDOS.MSG file, which contains messages that the utility uses.
Ensure that you installed NetWare Communication Services correctly.

--------------

What BUTIL command is being run after you log out. The command is
probably in the batch file that runs the application in question. If the
command is BUTIL -STOP try REMing that out and inserting BREQUEST /U
instead.

HTH,

Brad Kunkel
Integrated Business, Inc.


"Robert" <hockey (AT) vernon (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:VRvEj.98998$w94.56134 (AT) pd7urf2no (DOT) ..
I can login and the interface seems to work for most of it, but when I
log out I get an error from Butil that says:

BUTIL-1:Wrong version of message file or message file not found.

Any suggestions?

Thanks again for all the help.

Robert

Robert wrote:
Thanks Brad. That seemed to work. I will have to test it to make sure
that all the components work.

Thanks again for the help.

Robert

Brad Kunkel wrote:
What you can do is REM the line that loads the driver in CONFIG.NT.
This will disable the DOS file access in the Pervasive Client. After
that go back to using BREQUEST and it should work. You may also have
to re-install the Netware client and include IPX/SPX support.
Actually, IPX/SPX may need to be enabled on the server as well.

HTH,
Brad Kunkel
Integrated Business, Inc.


"Robert" <hockey (AT) vernon (DOT) com> wrote in message
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Thanks for the reply. The CONFIG.NT is there and it says it is going
to load the btrdrvr.sys file. I cannot get the application to load,
so I have to think that the application will not run without the
BREQUEST and BUTIL functions working. I get an error from both.

Thanks again for the help.

Robert

Brad Kunkel wrote:
If you installed the 9.5 client on your XP computer then there is
driver installed in CONFIG.NT that loads with the command prompt.
Try running the application or whatever without first loading
BREQUEST. It should work. If not, there are other ways to make it
work.

If your network has W98 computers, load BDOSSTUB instead of BREQUEST
on those workstations.

HTH,
Brad Kunkel
Integrated Business, Inc.


"Robert" <hockey (AT) vernon (DOT) com> wrote in message
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Hello all,

I am not very familiar with Pervasive software, so these might seem
like really basic questions, but we have a Novell 4.12 server
running an old Dos application that uses Btrieve version 5 and we
want to upgrade to something newer. I have a Netware 6.5 server
running and I think I have correctly installed the Pervasive 9.5
for Netware package, but I cannot connect to it from a Dos prompt
on a Windows XP computer. The Novell is working correctly, but if I
run BREQUEST from the workstation I get:
BREQUEST-10: the function IPXInitialize returned an error.

If I try BREQTCP I get:
BREQTCP-10: The function InitSocketLibrary returned an error.

I am not tied to any OS and would be open to any and all
suggestions including a complete migration to Linux.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Robert



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Default Re: Upgrade from Version 5 to Version 9.5 - Help Again - 03-21-2008 , 11:07 AM



I am guessing that the Btrieve files with your application are a version
earlier than ver 5 and I think that the newer Pervasive client does not
support versions before 5. Someone else on this NG may know for sure.

You could use a hex editor to look inside the bmmenu5.exe file to see what
BUTIL command is being executed. If it is BUTIL -STOP then you could take
the old BUTIL out of the application's path so that when it runs BUTIL it
gets the new one. However, based on the error message, it kind of looks
like it is already running the new one because I'm pretty sure the old
BUTILs did not use a MSG file. Did you check that C:\PVSW\BIN is in the
path?

If BUTIL -STOP is the command being executed and your application is being
run from a desktop link then the error is probably irrelevant. BUTIL -STOP
is meant to unload the BREQUEST TSR and so if your application exits back to
the desktop then the whole DOS session is unloaded when the program exits.

HTH,
Brad Kunkel
Integrated Business, Inc.



"Robert" <hockey (AT) vernon (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
Brad,

I saw that in the documentation and the file exists. I have not idea if it
is correct, but it is there. Strangely I cannot run the application if I
use the newer DOS utilities that I installed on the server. It only works
with the old version 5.0 that it came with. I am not overly impressed with
the programmers talents at this point.

There is nothing in the batch file about BUTIL, so I will assume that
BUTIL is being called from the bmmenu5.exe, which is being called from the
batch file. Is there any debug utilities out there that I can run to see
what is actually happening?

thanks again for the help.

Robert

Brad Kunkel wrote:
The documentation says the following:
--------------
BUTIL-1: Message file initialization failed
Only BUTIL.EXE in DOS returns this message. The utility could not find
the BUTILDOS.MSG file, which contains messages that the utility uses.
Ensure that you installed NetWare Communication Services correctly.

--------------

What BUTIL command is being run after you log out. The command is
probably in the batch file that runs the application in question. If the
command is BUTIL -STOP try REMing that out and inserting BREQUEST /U
instead.

HTH,

Brad Kunkel
Integrated Business, Inc.


"Robert" <hockey (AT) vernon (DOT) com> wrote in message
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I can login and the interface seems to work for most of it, but when I
log out I get an error from Butil that says:

BUTIL-1:Wrong version of message file or message file not found.

Any suggestions?

Thanks again for all the help.

Robert

Robert wrote:
Thanks Brad. That seemed to work. I will have to test it to make sure
that all the components work.

Thanks again for the help.

Robert

Brad Kunkel wrote:
What you can do is REM the line that loads the driver in CONFIG.NT.
This will disable the DOS file access in the Pervasive Client. After
that go back to using BREQUEST and it should work. You may also have
to re-install the Netware client and include IPX/SPX support.
Actually, IPX/SPX may need to be enabled on the server as well.

HTH,
Brad Kunkel
Integrated Business, Inc.


"Robert" <hockey (AT) vernon (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:wphCj.85978$pM4.52216 (AT) pd7urf1no (DOT) ..
Thanks for the reply. The CONFIG.NT is there and it says it is going
to load the btrdrvr.sys file. I cannot get the application to load,
so I have to think that the application will not run without the
BREQUEST and BUTIL functions working. I get an error from both.

Thanks again for the help.

Robert

Brad Kunkel wrote:
If you installed the 9.5 client on your XP computer then there is
driver installed in CONFIG.NT that loads with the command prompt.
Try running the application or whatever without first loading
BREQUEST. It should work. If not, there are other ways to make it
work.

If your network has W98 computers, load BDOSSTUB instead of BREQUEST
on those workstations.

HTH,
Brad Kunkel
Integrated Business, Inc.


"Robert" <hockey (AT) vernon (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:a_UBj.76087$w94.36138 (AT) pd7urf2no (DOT) ..
Hello all,

I am not very familiar with Pervasive software, so these might seem
like really basic questions, but we have a Novell 4.12 server
running an old Dos application that uses Btrieve version 5 and we
want to upgrade to something newer. I have a Netware 6.5 server
running and I think I have correctly installed the Pervasive 9.5
for Netware package, but I cannot connect to it from a Dos prompt
on a Windows XP computer. The Novell is working correctly, but if I
run BREQUEST from the workstation I get:
BREQUEST-10: the function IPXInitialize returned an error.

If I try BREQTCP I get:
BREQTCP-10: The function InitSocketLibrary returned an error.

I am not tied to any OS and would be open to any and all
suggestions including a complete migration to Linux.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Robert



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