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Hello, I'm testing a new workstation (Dell Precision Windows 7 64 bits) I need to connect to a Netware 5.1 server with Psql 8.5 Everything goes fine immediatly after login but the file opening need more an more time the more I open files say in a XP workstation opening all my tables takes 1 second, on the Win7, it can take up to 30 seconds (at that moment, I logoff, logon to get it working correctly) I get the same problem when connecting to a Debian server with PSQL 9.5 I have to logoff/logon (windows) to get an acceptable speed. I tried several things to speed up but no luck. Cannot use V10 client as I need Odbc connection to the server. Does someone have an advice so I can work on may WS ? Regards Hubert |
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The first thing to find out if whether this problem is systemic to the server or to the workstation. *One way to do this is to try installing a network analyzer like Wireshark (www.wireshark.org) and capture the network trace to see what is taking so long, then trying to reconfigure the workstation to avoid that problem. Another possibility would be to look to upgrading the entire environment to PSQLv10, which is the ONLY version certified on Windows 7. *However, PSQLv10 is not available for NetWare, so this wqould require changing to either Windows or Linux as a server NOS. A final possibility would be to install and use Windows XP Mode, a feature of Windows 7 that runs applications in a virtual WinXP box. *I have had several users report success with doing this on Windows 7 with older Pervasive clients. *It's not as transparent, but it works... * * * * Goldstar Software Inc. * * * * Pervasive-based Products, Training & Services * * * * Bill Bach * * * * BillB... (AT) goldstarsoftware (DOT) com * * * *http://www.goldstarsoftware.com * * * * *** Pervasive Training - June 2010 in Chicago *** hbannw wrote: Hello, I'm testing a new workstation (Dell Precision Windows 7 64 bits) I need to connect to a Netware 5.1 server with Psql 8.5 Everything goes fine immediatly after login but the file opening need more an more time the more I open files say in a XP workstation opening all my tables takes 1 second, on the Win7, it can take up to 30 seconds (at that moment, I logoff, logon to get it working correctly) I get the same problem when connecting to a Debian server with PSQL 9.5 I have to logoff/logon (windows) to get an acceptable speed. I tried several things to speed up but no luck. Cannot use V10 client as I need Odbc connection to the server. Does someone have an advice so I can work on may WS ? Regards Hubert |
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there are 600ms between the Ok and the beginning of Btrieve messages. This delay is considered "workstation think time", where the client |
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Hello Bill, actually, I cannot upgrade to PSQLv10, this is planned for this summer. (SLES10 and PSQLv10) I will give a try to XP Mode but it is not my preferred option I will also try the PSQLV10 client, are there restrictions connecting to V8.5 ? I suppose the problem comes from the workstation as after the logon, everything is fine. Here a small extract from the capture done with Wireshark when it does not work this is just after get effective rights for a file 13994 0.232743 WORKSTATION SERVER NDS C NDS Read Entry Information, Object Name - xx.XX 13995 0.232975 SERVER WORKSTATION NDS R Ok 13998 0.429595 WORKSTATION SERVER TCP 50992 > ncp [ACK] Seq=140735 Ack=6579640 Win=64240 Len=0 14004 0.877929 WORKSTATION SERVER TCP 64152 > btrieve [PSH, ACK] Seq=84281 Ack=158031 Win=62993 Len=151 there are 600ms between the Ok and the beginning of Btrieve messages. Thanks for your help Hubert On 10 mai, 23:21, BtrieveBill <billb... (AT) goldstarsoftware (DOT) com> wrote: The first thing to find out if whether this problem is systemic to the server or to the workstation. One way to do this is to try installing a network analyzer like Wireshark (www.wireshark.org) and capture the network trace to see what is taking so long, then trying to reconfigure the workstation to avoid that problem. Another possibility would be to look to upgrading the entire environment to PSQLv10, which is the ONLY version certified on Windows 7. However, PSQLv10 is not available for NetWare, so this wqould require changing to either Windows or Linux as a server NOS. A final possibility would be to install and use Windows XP Mode, a feature of Windows 7 that runs applications in a virtual WinXP box. I have had several users report success with doing this on Windows 7 with older Pervasive clients. It's not as transparent, but it works... Goldstar Software Inc. Pervasive-based Products, Training & Services Bill Bach BillB... (AT) goldstarsoftware (DOT) com http://www.goldstarsoftware.com *** Pervasive Training - June 2010 in Chicago *** hbannw wrote: Hello, I'm testing a new workstation (Dell Precision Windows 7 64 bits) I need to connect to a Netware 5.1 server with Psql 8.5 Everything goes fine immediatly after login but the file opening need more an more time the more I open files say in a XP workstation opening all my tables takes 1 second, on the Win7, it can take up to 30 seconds (at that moment, I logoff, logon to get it working correctly) I get the same problem when connecting to a Debian server with PSQL 9.5 I have to logoff/logon (windows) to get an acceptable speed. I tried several things to speed up but no luck. Cannot use V10 client as I need Odbc connection to the server. Does someone have an advice so I can work on may WS ? Regards Hubert |
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*> there are 600ms between the Ok and the beginning of Btrieve messages.. This delay is considered "workstation think time", where the client workstation is thinking about what needs to be done next. *This may be quite normal, and 0.6s is a far cry from 30 seconds. *Where is the rest of the time lost? * * * * Goldstar Software Inc. * * * * Pervasive-based Products, Training & Services * * * * Bill Bach * * * * BillB... (AT) goldstarsoftware (DOT) com * * * *http://www.goldstarsoftware.com * * * * *** Pervasive Training - June 2010 in Chicago *** hbannw wrote: Hello Bill, actually, I cannot upgrade to PSQLv10, this is planned for this summer. (SLES10 and PSQLv10) I will give a try to XP Mode but it is not my preferred option I will also try the PSQLV10 client, are there restrictions connecting to V8.5 ? I suppose the problem comes from the workstation as after the logon, everything is fine. Here a small extract from the capture done with Wireshark when it does not work this is just after get effective rights for a file 13994 * * *0.232743 * * * *WORKSTATION * * SERVER *NDS * * C NDS Read Entry Information, Object Name - xx.XX 13995 * * *0.232975 * * * *SERVER * * * * *WORKSTATION * * * * * * NDS * * R Ok 13998 * * *0.429595 * * * *WORKSTATION * * * * * * SERVER * * * * *TCP * * 50992 > ncp [ACK] Seq=140735 Ack=6579640 Win=64240 Len=0 14004 * * *0.877929 * * * *WORKSTATION * * * * * * SERVER * * * * *TCP * * 64152 > btrieve [PSH, ACK] Seq=84281 Ack=158031 Win=62993 Len=151 there are 600ms between the Ok and the beginning of Btrieve messages. Thanks for your help Hubert On 10 mai, 23:21, BtrieveBill <billb... (AT) goldstarsoftware (DOT) com> wrote: The first thing to find out if whether this problem is systemic to the server or to the workstation. *One way to do this is to try installing a network analyzer like Wireshark (www.wireshark.org) and capture the network trace to see what is taking so long, then trying to reconfigure the workstation to avoid that problem. Another possibility would be to look to upgrading the entire environment to PSQLv10, which is the ONLY version certified on Windows 7. *However, PSQLv10 is not available for NetWare, so this wqould require changing to either Windows or Linux as a server NOS. A final possibility would be to install and use Windows XP Mode, a feature of Windows 7 that runs applications in a virtual WinXP box. *I have had several users report success with doing this on Windows 7 with older Pervasive clients. *It's not as transparent, but it works... * * * * Goldstar Software Inc. * * * * Pervasive-based Products, Training & Services * * * * Bill Bach * * * * BillB... (AT) goldstarsoftware (DOT) com * * * *http://www.goldstarsoftware.com * * * * *** Pervasive Training - June 2010 in Chicago *** hbannw wrote: Hello, I'm testing a new workstation (Dell Precision Windows 7 64 bits) I need to connect to a Netware 5.1 server with Psql 8.5 Everything goes fine immediatly after login but the file opening need more an more time the more I open files say in a XP workstation opening all my tables takes 1 second, on the Win7, it can take up to 30 seconds (at that moment, I logoff, logon to get it working correctly) I get the same problem when connecting to a Debian server with PSQL 9.5 I have to logoff/logon (windows) to get an acceptable speed. I tried several things to speed up but no luck. Cannot use V10 client as I need Odbc connection to the server. Does someone have an advice so I can work on may WS ? Regards Hubert |
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