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Hans Forbrich
 
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Default Re: SQL Commands to interact with Windows Files in 9iR2 - 01-16-2004 , 07:43 PM






Galen Boyer wrote:

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On Fri, 16 Jan 2004, hforbric (AT) yahoo (DOT) net wrote:


Perhaps the answer lies in netiquette rather than technology,
after all? (Just a thought.)

Well, I wouldn't think the scolding responses held so little
water if the people yelling about them also were good usenet
citizens and sufficiently trimmed their posts (Daniel is a big
offender in this regard). If one wants to measure the affect on
usenet experience, not sufficiently trimming one's posts if far
more of a gregious error against usenet humanity than
cross-posting.
I agree with the sentiment.

At the same time, I lurk on about 65 newsgroups and lists (almost all
about technology) - the discussions about top posting, cross posting and
trimming happens in every one of them at least once every 6 months.
With the same ranting ("don't do this, you &*$(@ " vs "I don't care")
each and every time. You'd think the message would eventually get
across.

You are fortunate in having picked a reader that does eliminate the
nonsense of the cross posts. There are a number of alternative access
methods that do not provide that capability, and the cost (download time
over modem, re-read time, etc.) can be frustratingly high.

Flip side - I find reading bottom posts very irritating because of the
lack of trimming and the need to scroll past relatively recent
information to get to the meat. But I put up with it, and do bottom
post, simply because it's generally accepted ettiquette (when in Rome
....).

/Hans
"Etiquette is the grease that lubricates the wheels of society; those
whells are pretty rusty a tthe best of times" (misquoted from the
Notebook of Lazarus Long)



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Galen Boyer
 
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Default Re: SQL Commands to interact with Windows Files in 9iR2 - 01-17-2004 , 06:17 PM






On Sat, 17 Jan 2004, hforbric (AT) yahoo (DOT) net wrote:

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Flip side - I find reading bottom posts very irritating because
of the lack of trimming and the need to scroll past relatively
recent information to get to the meat.
I'm not sure why this is the flip side. This is my point.
Bottom or top-posting, there are thousands upon thousands of
posts where somebody cites the entire thread just to type a
single sentence, maybe, "I agree" or "I disagree". Bottom or
top-posting it doesn't matter. This is just plain wrong.
Nowhere does it really affect you more than in google history
research. With an entire thread cited, one has to wade through
reams and reams of browser pages just to get to an answer.

The quality newreading development community will give the user
the ability to adhere to the standards of usenet. Usually the
Microsoft Outlook users just give up on adhering to the
ettiguette cause their software makes it almost impossible to
correctly cite, intermingle and trim their posts.

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But I put up with it, and do bottom post, simply because it's
generally accepted ettiquette (when in Rome ...).
Bottom posting is the ettiquette because it is the only way
intermingling makes since.
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Galen Boyer


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Akhwashah
 
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Default Re: SQL Commands to interact with Windows Files in 9iR2 - 01-19-2004 , 06:46 PM




"Daniel Morgan" <damorgan@x.washington.edu> wrote

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Akhwashah wrote:

I am just fed up with people that post to every usenet group they can
spell so yes I know the answer but no I'm not going to tell you. Please
repost to a single usenet group and then you will get a response. What
keeps happening is that we all pile on and it profilerates everywhere
and this is just ridiculous.

I have only recently begun using looking at Newsgroups for help, and I
personally didn't see the difference in posting the same question
individually to the groups where I felt the topic might be relevant and
doing it as I did. I was just looking for help.

If everyone feels so strongly about this, why don't they make sure
instructions are "EASILY" obtainable for newcomers, so that it doesn't
happen ALL the time.




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Joel Garry
 
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Default Re: SQL Commands to interact with Windows Files in 9iR2 - 01-20-2004 , 06:25 PM



"Akhwashah" <ishah99_NO_JUNK (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote

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"Daniel Morgan" <damorgan@x.washington.edu> wrote in message
news:1074234274.62451 (AT) yasure (DOT) ..
Akhwashah wrote:

I am just fed up with people that post to every usenet group they can
spell so yes I know the answer but no I'm not going to tell you. Please
repost to a single usenet group and then you will get a response. What
keeps happening is that we all pile on and it profilerates everywhere
and this is just ridiculous.

I have only recently begun using looking at Newsgroups for help, and I
personally didn't see the difference in posting the same question
individually to the groups where I felt the topic might be relevant and
doing it as I did. I was just looking for help.

If everyone feels so strongly about this, why don't they make sure
instructions are "EASILY" obtainable for newcomers, so that it doesn't
happen ALL the time.
I for one would like to know what you would expect a newcomer to do
(seriously, I'm not being flippant, I would like us to accomodate
newcomers). There are people who feel newbies won't pay initial
attention no matter what we do. Since you are new, you may have a
perspective old timers lack.

jg
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