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Default oracle database for academic - 01-13-2004 , 12:51 PM






Can anyone tell me the price of Oracle database for academic?

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Default Re: oracle database for academic - 01-22-2004 , 12:27 PM






ffunus (AT) yahoo (DOT) com (f) wrote in message news:<8f4ce98a.0401131051.625e01e1 (AT) posting (DOT) google.com>...
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Can anyone tell me the price of Oracle database for academic?

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I would like to know as well.


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Default Re: oracle database for academic - 01-22-2004 , 12:39 PM



curious wrote:

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ffunus (AT) yahoo (DOT) com (f) wrote in message news:<8f4ce98a.0401131051.625e01e1 (AT) posting (DOT) google.com>...

Can anyone tell me the price of Oracle database for academic?

Thanks,

ff


I would like to know as well.
Same as for anyone else ... between $0 and $39.95.

Free if downloaded from oracle.com
$39.95 plus a bit for shipping if you want all the CDs from
http://store.oracle.com

Just check the license agreement before you use either of these options
to make sure you are legal.

What academic institution?

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Default Re: oracle database for academic - 01-22-2004 , 01:04 PM



curious wrote:
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ffunus (AT) yahoo (DOT) com (f) wrote in message news:<8f4ce98a.0401131051.625e01e1 (AT) posting (DOT) google.com>...
Can anyone tell me the price of Oracle database for academic?

Thanks,

ff

I would like to know as well.
(The answer really hasn't changed from that posted in the archives (see
http://groups.google.com for archives, if necessary).)

Oracle seems to separate the software from the 'right to use'. Software
is available on CD usually as part of a 'CD pack', or by download. The
technology software is generally free for the asking. However, Oracle
expects reimbursement for media as well as shipping & handling if you
want physical media. The 'right to use' is the 'license' and that can
cost - either in money or in restrictions.


ALL Oracle's baseline technology can be downloaded FREE of charge from
http://otn.oracle.com. You can avoid the download by purchasing a Tech
Track (from the same location). Either of these is subject to a
"developer's license" that you ack. before you download or order.

You can also get a TRIAL license from the http://oraclestore.oracle.com
and (from the same place) you can order a CD Pack to provide the
software for the trial. Trials tend to be limited in lifetime.

I personally have not seen anything called an 'academic license' (and
appreciate corrections if such an animal is available). However, if
you buy licenses from a sales rep rather than online, licenses prices
tend to be negotiable.


I have noticed that a number of individuals assume that the "developer's
license" or the "CD Pack" for a trial can be used freely in an academic
environment. While I can't comment on how 'legal' this is, I do note
that it's a common practise by students to get the software under either
developer or trial license.

/Hans
BTW: cross-posting to multiple newsgroups in the comp.database.oracle.*
heirarchy is not necessary, nor appreciated.


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Default Re: oracle database for academic - 01-22-2004 , 05:10 PM



Hans Forbrich wrote:

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I have noticed that a number of individuals assume that the "developer's
license" or the "CD Pack" for a trial can be used freely in an academic
environment. While I can't comment on how 'legal' this is, I do note
that it's a common practise by students to get the software under either
developer or trial license.

/Hans
BTW: cross-posting to multiple newsgroups in the comp.database.oracle.*
heirarchy is not necessary, nor appreciated.
Based on my understanding from Oracle the license supports students to
learn the software. It does not allow companies to use it, for profit,
to teach those students: There is a difference.

If you use their software to make money ... Oracle expects a piece of
the action. Seems like a very reasonable approach.

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http://www.outreach.washington.edu/e...ad/oad_crs.asp
http://www.outreach.washington.edu/e...oa/aoa_crs.asp
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Default Re: oracle database for academic - 01-22-2004 , 07:02 PM



Daniel Morgan wrote:
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Based on my understanding from Oracle the license supports students to
learn the software. It does not allow companies to use it, for profit,
to teach those students: There is a difference.
As I said, "I can't comment on how 'legal' this is". Referring to the
license for the TechNet version, Oracle explicitly disallows using it
for 'third party instruction', but makes no mention of using it for
self-study.

Quote:
If you use their software to make money ... Oracle expects a piece of
the action. Seems like a very reasonable approach.

Truly. And I'm happy to pay - as long as it's not [always] out of my
pocket <g>
/Hans


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Default Re: oracle database for academic - 01-23-2004 , 09:16 PM



Daniel Morgan <damorgan@x.washington.edu> wrote

<snip for brevity>
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What academic institution?
I already graduated from a university in Texas. Want to practise to
take some oracle certificate like programmer and may be developer
later.


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Default Re: oracle database for academic - 01-23-2004 , 09:22 PM



Daniel Morgan <damorgan@x.washington.edu> wrote

Quote:
Hans Forbrich wrote:

I have noticed that a number of individuals assume that the "developer's
license" or the "CD Pack" for a trial can be used freely in an academic
environment. While I can't comment on how 'legal' this is, I do note
that it's a common practise by students to get the software under either
developer or trial license.

/Hans
BTW: cross-posting to multiple newsgroups in the comp.database.oracle.*
heirarchy is not necessary, nor appreciated.

Based on my understanding from Oracle the license supports students to
learn the software.
Dose student mean someone who is taking classes at a college or
university only or any one who want to learn but not a part of any
company or working for any company and need to use the software for
the company work? I am taking aLinux lass at community college
though.

Quote:
It does not allow companies to use it, for profit,
to teach those students: There is a difference.

If you use their software to make money ... Oracle expects a piece of
the action. Seems like a very reasonable approach.
Which ng should I remove and which one should I use to avoid
crossposting in this thread?


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Default Re: oracle database for academic - 01-23-2004 , 11:04 PM



curious wrote:
Quote:
Daniel Morgan <damorgan@x.washington.edu> wrote

Hans Forbrich wrote:

I have noticed that a number of individuals assume that the "developer's
license" or the "CD Pack" for a trial can be used freely in an academic
environment. While I can't comment on how 'legal' this is, I do note
that it's a common practise by students to get the software under either
developer or trial license.

/Hans
BTW: cross-posting to multiple newsgroups in the comp.database.oracle.*
heirarchy is not necessary, nor appreciated.

Based on my understanding from Oracle the license supports students to
learn the software.

Dose student mean someone who is taking classes at a college or
university only or any one who want to learn but not a part of any
company or working for any company and need to use the software for
the company work? I am taking aLinux lass at community college
though.
If you look at my replies closely, you may notice the words 'free',
'download', 'http://otn.oracle.com' and so on and I suspect that the
"developer's license" will fulfill your purpose nicely.

All I suggest is that you read the license instead of simply clicking on
'I accept'. It's really not that long or that complicated. (And it
states your community college class can not use the developer's license
as part of it's curriculum if they charge you money; the way I read it,
it does NOT stop you from using the developer's license to 'learn how to
develop' on your own.)

Quote:
It does not allow companies to use it, for profit,
to teach those students: There is a difference.

If you use their software to make money ... Oracle expects a piece of
the action. Seems like a very reasonable approach.

Which ng should I remove and which one should I use to avoid
crossposting in this thread?
Pick one. It's just not necessary to post in both as pretty well the
same set of people monitor and answer in all of the cdo heirarchy.

(But realize that roughly around 1997, the community voted to stop using
comp.database.oracle and therefore it is not supported by some ISPs.)

/Hans


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Default Re: oracle database for academic - 01-24-2004 , 03:44 PM



Hans Forbrich <hforbric (AT) yahoo (DOT) net> wrote

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curious wrote:

Daniel Morgan <damorgan@x.washington.edu> wrote

Hans Forbrich wrote:

I have noticed that a number of individuals assume that the "developer's
license" or the "CD Pack" for a trial can be used freely in an academic
environment. While I can't comment on how 'legal' this is, I do note
that it's a common practise by students to get the software under either
developer or trial license.

/Hans
BTW: cross-posting to multiple newsgroups in the comp.database.oracle.*
heirarchy is not necessary, nor appreciated.

Based on my understanding from Oracle the license supports students to
learn the software.

Dose student mean someone who is taking classes at a college or
university only or any one who want to learn but not a part of any
company or working for any company and need to use the software for
the company work? I am taking aLinux lass at community college
though.

If you look at my replies closely, you may notice the words 'free',
'download', 'http://otn.oracle.com' and so on and I suspect that the
"developer's license" will fulfill your purpose nicely.
Yes, I ntoiced 'FREE' but I still wondered what "student" means as far
as officially a student a college or someone who is learning like a
student would learn a subject.

Quote:
All I suggest is that you read the license instead of simply clicking on
'I accept'. It's really not that long or that complicated. (And it
states your community college class can not use the developer's license
as part of it's curriculum if they charge you money; the way I read it,
it does NOT stop you from using the developer's license to 'learn how to
develop' on your own.)
The class I am taking is linux class. I am taking at an extension
center, not on campus. Too far to go but I doubt that I wil get to use
Orcale if they have it installed on campus computers.

Quote:

It does not allow companies to use it, for profit,
to teach those students: There is a difference.

If you use their software to make money ... Oracle expects a piece of
the action. Seems like a very reasonable approach.

Which ng should I remove and which one should I use to avoid
crossposting in this thread?

Pick one. It's just not necessary to post in both as pretty well the
same set of people monitor and answer in all of the cdo heirarchy.

(But realize that roughly around 1997, the community voted to stop using
comp.database.oracle and therefore it is not supported by some ISPs.)

/Hans
That explains why I did not see as much traffic at
comp.database.oracle.

Thanks.


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